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    Whats his offensive game?

    Garbage? Or does he have a decent shot here and there.
    He has a jump shot and a nice touch around the rim. THe thing with Thomas isn't exacly correct. He's bigger than him, far more athletic, can run the court,block shots, has a post up game and is 11 years younger.

    http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKBegQAeJW8

    THat's his first game this season that he played extendet minutes.

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    Would you say if they signed him Pop would let him play, ala, his IQ isn't so bad that he needs to be yanked?
    Hopefully Pop begins to understand that he can't yank players all the time for screwing up. He knows the FO can't get the exact player he might want. A good sign is that he eventually came around with Bonner. While that may not have ended well, it was necessary during the season.

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    Impressive through three quarters tonight - 9 points and 11 rebounds on 4/5 shooting. Magic up 17 without Howard or Lee.

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    Hopefully Pop begins to understand that he can't yank players all the time for screwing up. He knows the FO can't get the exact player he might want. A good sign is that he eventually came around with Bonner. While that may not have ended well, it was necessary during the season.

    You also can't baby them.

    That was part of the reason they failed this season.

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    He came in an provided a near double/double in Howard's absence in a playoff elimination game. He's got my vote.

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    He came in an provided a near double/double in Howard's absence in a playoff elimination game. He's got my vote.
    Yeah thats pretty good stuff.

    problem is

    A. The Spurs notice.

    B. the rest of the league also noticed.

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    Yeah thats pretty good stuff.

    problem is

    A. The Spurs notice.

    B. the rest of the league also noticed.
    Thing is, not many teams will be able or willing to spend more than MLE over several years for Gortat with the summer of 2010 fast approaching. If the Spurs covet him, they can offer a starting job and plenty of minutes on a roster with three All-Stars. Whether he's on the Spurs' radar or not, who knows, but they could definitely make a compe ive offer.

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    You also can't baby them.

    That was part of the reason they failed this season.
    ?

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    Thing is, not many teams will be able or willing to spend more than MLE over several years for Gortat with the summer of 2010 fast approaching. If the Spurs covet him, they can offer a starting job and plenty of minutes on a roster with three All-Stars. Whether he's on the Spurs' radar or not, who knows, but they could definitely make a compe ive offer.
    1 year, LLE deal MIGHT get him, if hes supposedly cross ways so much with SVG.

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    I don't think Pop was enough of a hardass this season.

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    1 year, LLE deal MIGHT get him, if hes supposedly cross ways so much with SVG.
    Magic will match that, if only to trade him. That won't take them over into Luxury Tax land sufficiently to justify losing his rights without compensation. $3 - $4 million might do it.

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    He is worth more than LLE and everybody knows.

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    He is worth more than LLE and everybody knows.
    If they didn't know it before tonight, they do now

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    Magic will match that, if only to trade him. That won't take them over into Luxury Tax land sufficiently to justify losing his rights without compensation. $3 - $4 million might do it.
    Eh, he aint worth what McDeyss or Rasheed Wallace is.

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    Eh, he aint worth what McDeyss or Rasheed Wallace is.
    Do you think $3-$4 mil gets either of them? McDyess might make that sacrifice for a legit shot at a ring; not so sure about Sheed. I'd prefer to split the MLE between two players if possible, so if I could acquire Gortat and Dahntay Jones for that much, I'd be pretty happy. You've gotten younger and improved defensively. But I suspect the Spurs will give Sheed full MLE in the end.

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    For clarification, how much are the LLE and MLE worth?

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    For clarification, how much are the LLE and MLE worth?
    1.8 for the LLE. and 5.5 I THINK for the MLE.

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    Do you think $3-$4 mil gets either of them? McDyess might make that sacrifice for a legit shot at a ring; not so sure about Sheed. I'd prefer to split the MLE between two players if possible, so if I could acquire Gortat and Dahntay Jones for that much, I'd be pretty happy. You've gotten younger and improved defensively. But I suspect the Spurs will give Sheed full MLE in the end.
    I think Dice would take most of the MLE.

    I just can't believe Gortat is worth the FULL MLE.

    I don't think the spurs believe that either.

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    This guy dunked the on Dalembart tonight.

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    He has a jump shot and a nice touch around the rim. THe thing with Thomas isn't exacly correct. He's bigger than him, far more athletic, can run the court,block shots, has a post up game and is 11 years younger.

    http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKBegQAeJW8

    THat's his first game this season that he played extendet minutes.
    Did this link work for anyone else? Even though it won't for me, but I did some looking on youtube, and realized someone has put up his highlights for alot of games he's played in, but they put in missed FTs, missed jays, fouls where he gets called for a block, as well as all the good things. He looks like a solid big. I'll have to watch the next Magic game, but they make it to the ECF.

    And was he nicknamed the Polish Hammer before tonight?

    Also, anyone find it odd the Magic have their best win with Howard out? I didn't watch the game, but maybe a bunh or Orlando players played out of their minds.
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    Did this link work for anyone else?
    Not me

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    Yes. Polish Hammer or Warlock.

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    no chance to get Gortat without totally overpaying. Magic are building on a contender team, they won't hesitate to pay some tax million, considering how willing they were to burn a boatload of money on Lewis.
    Battie is more or less useless and comes off the books 2010 anyhow. Gortat is a very good replacement for all what Battie provided and there is still some upside.
    so, I'm not sure if the Magic wouldn't even match a full MLE offer.

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    Gortat > Battie

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    Dude Gortat's no joke... whenever this guy gets PT he's productive. I can't say the same for any of the bigs on the spurs except Duncan. But then again, Kurt Thomas was played injured throughout most of the season. I'm pretty sure Gortat will get more than the LLE, I don't know about the MLE though as it's hard to tell - all teams tend to overvalue big men in the league. The problem is, if we have the MLE to spend would you rather resign Gooden or acquire Gortat? Gooden's way better on the offensive end, but Gortat's better on the defensive end. Plus, Gortat's 25 and Gooden's 28.

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