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    Nazr Mohammed is the most underrated player on the NBA, the man is easily capable of averaging 35 ppg and 22 rpg, but hasnt got the system down quite yet.
    Come on!

    Anyway I still think it was a good move to trade Malik for Nazr. Once he learns the Pop's system he will be fine.

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    I see AHF has a new screen name.
    Naw, "Supreme Allah" is actually my cousin. Hes pretty extreme. I finnally got him to join the join Spurs talk, but if I woulda known he would be this crazy, I wouldnt have told him about SpursTalk.

    LOL

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    Supreme Allah...don't forget Nazr's excellent J, his shotblocking, his defensive presence, his great hands, his passing ability, and most importantly...his ability to not pick up stupid fouls...

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    Supreme Allah...don't forget Nazr's excellent J, his shotblocking, his defensive presence, his great hands, his passing ability, and most importantly...his ability to not pick up stupid fouls...
    I sense your sarcasm but Nazr Mohammed, being a 5 percenter, has a purpose in commiting all these "stupid fouls". He who laughs last. laughs the loudest

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    Where is Manu now
    playing 18 mins a game cause hes hurt,

    whats your point bandwagon jumper?

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    Nazr was brought in to help contend with two players that stand in the way of the Spurs and a le, that's Yao and Shaq. Nazr has the strength to slow those two from establishing deep post postion. Malik played Miami twice in the past week and proved he can't keep Shaq from setting up deep or backing Malik down quickly. Anybody who thinks Malik can play Shaq didn't watch those two Miami - Knick games.

    Now if Duncan being out turns all the other Spurs into a bunch of eunuchs confidence-wise it hardly matters who's a Spur.

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    Nazr has the strength to slow those two from establishing deep post postion.
    Where do you see any evidence of that?

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    Nazr was brought in because of Malik's contract...and Pop said it.

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    Where do you see any evidence of that?

    Probably the same place he saw evidence of Nazr having a J.

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    Nazr was brought in because of Malik's contract...and Pop said it.
    Nazr was brought in because of his deep knowledge of the world. Pop felt the team could benefit from a man who searches for truth.

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    Mike, YOU ARE RIDECULOUS!!

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    Mike, YOU ARE RIDECULOUS!!
    I told you, my name is NOT MIKE! You will call me Mohammed from here on out.

    Praise Allah

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    Nazr was brought in to help contend with two players that stand in the way of the Spurs and a le, that's Yao and Shaq. Nazr has the strength to slow those two from establishing deep post postion.
    If that is why they brought him in, that was the stupidest trade in sporting history. Was the tape of Shaq dropping 33 points, 18 rebounds and three blocks in 36 minutes earlier this season on Nazr not available when the Spurs were assuming this? Nazr didn't even face Shaq in the 2003 or 2004 seasons.

    Earlier this season, Yao Ming had 23 points, 11 rebounds and 4 assists against Nazr. In another game, Yao had 22 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks against Nazr.

    If that is why Nazr was brought in, I'm wondering how Pop puts out fires. I'd guess gasoline.

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    Didn't say Nazr has a great J. I said I looked at his shot chart and the great mjority of his shots came from 9' in. He is strong and you can see that because a lot of his offensive rebounds come from routing other bigs out. Whottt did you watch Malik play Shaq in NY? Do you really think Malik can offer significant help against Shaq or Yao?

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    NO ONE can consistently guard Shaq or Yao. I don't know why people always bring this up. You can only guard Shaq by committee. The Spurs have always done that and will continue to do so.

    They brought Nazr here for his rebounding and his offensive game around the rim. Defensively he's a nightmare right now.

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    Against Shaq? Look at it this way...I think he can do a better job on Shaq than ing Horry and Rasho can...and maybe even Duncan as well...Shaq has owned Duncan when Ducnan has guarded him...Malik bodies his ass and makes him work...Malik is not afraid to get physical with him.

    As for Yao.... Yao. Yao is not the problem when we play the Rockets...freaking Tmac and Pop's desire to get into a defensive pissing contest with Van Gundy are the problems....

    You want Yao off the court? Go uptempo and run him...Have Parker and Manu drive on him...it's not like he's going to hammer them like Shaq would.

    And this trade doesn't help with Yao anyway...

    #1.He's still a half a foot taller than any mofo on our team...

    #2.We are slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooower and probably can't run with the guys we got now...other than Horry.


    You overlook that Malik matches up better with guys like Amare and he manhandles the Mavericks.....Remember when we played Phoenix? Drob couldn't even get on the court because Amare was too quick for him...and that's freaking David Robinson we are talking about...the fastest C in NBA history....and Rasho and Mohammed are going to keep up with him? Malik played well against Amare...and he played well against Phoenix all season long.

    In answer to your question...I think at best we stayed the same in our ability to guard Shaq(to be fair I have read that Mohammed plays Shaq very well...and the guys that told me that have been right about everything else with Mohammed)...but I think it's a lateral movement...I don't think we match up with Houston any better...and I think we match up with a team like the Suns much worse...


    And this guys does not know our D....or our O...and he doesn't have Malik's post season experience, his hustle or his agressiveness, but he does seem to have everyone of Malik's flaws...including getting his shot blocked back into his ing face 5 times a game...and Malik didn't suck in big games or the playoffs dammit...

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    That would make sense except for that Malik averaged 3.3 turnovers per 48 minutes on the Spurs this season, while Nazr is averaging 4.7 turnovers per 48 minutes as a Spur. Also, Nazr is shooting 39.2% as a Spur while Malik shot 46.4% while on the team.

    Now tell me who is more likely to go 3-11 from the field and get 5 TOs.

    Yeah but Nazr is a better passer!

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    I went back to the game log of the Miami - NY game. Shaq and Nazr were on the floor together a total of almost 27 1/2 inutes. Shaq went 9/16 on shots and 2/4 on FT during that time. Not a bad job. You can't stop Shaq but you can't let him get easy deep post position, at least slow him down enough to get doubles in. Whottt sorry Malik can't guard Shaq.

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    Haha
    This thread is too funny

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    So, thanks for reiterating my point.

    Pop is a up.

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    Shaq and Nazr were on the floor together a total of almost 27 1/2 inutes. Shaq went 9/16 on shots and 2/4 on FT. Not a bad job.
    Not a bad job? Thats 20 points in 27 minutes or 35.5 points per 48 minutes. If that's not bad, what is?

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    Nazr Mohammed is the most underrated player on the NBA, the man is easily capable of averaging 35 ppg and 22 rpg, but hasnt got the system down quite yet.

    A proffesional NBA player doesn't need too much time to learn the ropes...

    They played Malik Rose right away In New York and he seems to be doing just fine. So, I agree with Timvp's first post.


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    it took kidd on full year with nets to take them to the finals
    give nazr a few games
    he SUCKED TONIGHT THOUGh

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    it took kidd on full year with nets to take them to the finals
    give nazr a few games
    he SUCKED TONIGHT THOUGh
    Ducks,

    The play-offs are just around the corner...There Is no time to be giving Nazr chance after chance. He needs to step up and play some real D!

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    This is precisely what happens when you make midseason trades based on saving the ownership some coin rather than on what is in the best interest of the team when it comes to playing the ing game. Again, I'd like to reiterate a hearty you to all of you dumb s who liked that trade because Nazr Mohammed is a couple inches taller than Malik Rose.

    Lest we forget that the Spurs gave up two 1st round picks in that deal.

    But it saved Holt Cat $ so that means it was good.

    you.

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