F'n AJ

[EricB]

For real! I mean i still have hope that we can make some noise next year but our best days are definately behind us. Reality sucks people.

Well I guess I should not renew the season tickets next year seeing as they have no shot.

Thanks

[Flux451]

Shocking how few of you were Spurs fans when AJ played. Your ignorant comments give you away.

I concur. I was estatic to see him replace Vinny Del Negro.

[sa_kid20]

Well I guess I should not renew the season tickets next year seeing as they have no shot.

Thanks

Well i'm sorry i won't see you at games next year since i already renewed mine. And where did you get no shot from Debbie Downer? We still have a shot it just won't be as easy as we're all used to it being. That's just reality.

[Obstructed_View]

Well I guess I should not renew the season tickets next year seeing as they have no shot.

I'm sure everyone from your section will be pleased to hear that.

[Obstructed_View]

I concur. I was estatic to see him replace Vinny Del Negro.

And Lloyd Daniels and Negele Knight and Chris Whitney...the only decent point guard they had was Sleepy Floyd and he was only used for defense. AJ bookended a really terrible run at point guard for the Spurs, and few players in NBA history improved their game the way he did once he arrived back in SA for good.

[romsho]

He's an analyst. Sounds like he was analyzing what he as well as the rest of us have seen.

[rayray2k8]

Pretty easy to tell how long many of the spurs fans in here have been following this team.
It's the same people saying we should get behind the Rockets..
No.
And yes, the spurs are on the decline, the numbers don't lie, get over it.

[I. Hustle]

Pretty easy to tell how long many of the spurs fans in here have been following this team.
It's the same people saying we should get behind the Rockets..
No.
And yes, the spurs are on the decline, the numbers don't lie, get over it.

I have been a Spur fan all my life so don't give me that . I gave AJ and Vinnie D a tour of my middle school when they went to speak to all of us Toros.
It just sucks to hear someone that still somewhat represents us say that. That is not something you want to admit as a fan

[pawe]

AJ will be the Spurs' head coach when Pop retires but I will hate it when he got his number retired but Bowen's wont.

[peskypesky]

Avery! How dare he say the Spurs are in decline when they're not? I mean, all we need to do is get past the second round and we'll be in the WCF just like last year. Right?

[baseline bum]

AJ will be the Spurs' head coach when Pop retires but I will hate it when he got his number retired but Bowen's wont.

Bruce is a lock to get #12 retired.

[VI_Massive]

AJ will be the Spurs' head coach when Pop retires but I will hate it when he got his number retired but Bowen's wont.

I hope not. He is too much of a control freak. Maybe he can learn and develop, but from what I saw in Dallas, he is so abrasive and controlling that he alienates his players.

As far as the jersey, you hit a shot to win a team's first championship, you get your jersey retired.

[TheChillFactor]

Let 'em go see five-oh!!!!!!

[MI21]

Agree with Obstructed_View.

Easy to see the people who were not fans before 99'. (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

[poop]

And Lloyd Daniels and Negele Knight and Chris Whitney...the only decent point guard they had was Sleepy Floyd and he was only used for defense. AJ bookended a really terrible run at point guard for the Spurs, and few players in NBA history improved their game the way he did once he arrived back in SA for good.

oh brother..yes what a monstrous improvement. a starting PG playing first with one of the greatest big men ever and then with TWO of the greatest big men ever, and despite this he 'improved his game' to a stunning 10 ppg and 6 assists (6...can you IMAGINE some of the current PG's assist numbers if they had David and Tim down low?????) whilst 'improving' his standard PG skills to the point where he still couldnt shoot, couldnt hit 3's, couldnt hit freethrows, couldnt get steals, wasnt a good defender, and had weak ballhandling speed/penetration ability.

bottom line is he was a very average PG, with a loud mouth.

in fact, his game was exactly indistinguishable from jaque vaughn's.

despite being in a position most PG's could only dream about.

and no im not a noobie who didnt see him play, ive been watching the spurs since 1994.

[Chomag]

I concur. I was estatic to see him replace Vinny Del Negro.

Wasn't the first time AJ joined the Spurs was to help replace Rod Strickland when he was out with an injury? Thats how I'm remembering it anyway.

[whottt]

It's easy to see which fans weren't fans before AJ played for the Spurs...they're the AJ fans...

Can we get an age check just to bear this out?

Seriously...what a Nazi movement the Pro-AJ's are.

[Obstructed_View]

oh brother..yes what a monstrous improvement. a starting PG playing first with one of the greatest big men ever and then with TWO of the greatest big men ever, and despite this he 'improved his game' to a stunning 10 ppg and 6 assists (6...can you IMAGINE some of the current PG's assist numbers if they had David and Tim down low?????) whilst 'improving' his standard PG skills to the point where he still couldnt shoot, couldnt hit 3's, couldnt hit freethrows, couldnt get steals, wasnt a good defender, and had weak ballhandling speed/penetration ability.

bottom line is he was a very average PG, with a loud mouth.

in fact, his game was exactly indistinguishable from jaque vaughn's.

despite being in a position most PG's could only dream about.

and no im not a noobie who didnt see him play, ive been watching the spurs since 1994.

AJ was the fifth player in NBA history to increase his scoring average in each of his first seven seasons.

AJ is one of two players under six feet tall to play 1,000 career games in NBA history.

AJ averaged 9.6 assists per game in 1995-96, good for third in the league behind Stockton and Kidd. That's quite a bit better than six. I'd expect someone who was a Spurs fan back then not to have to make up to win an argument, or at very least to know his facts.

Anyway, AJ did all the above BEFORE Tim Duncan joined the team.

AJ topped Tony Parker's career best in assists for a season five times. AJ and Parker each had two full seasons running the point with Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Guess who had more assists. In fact, guess which one contributed to his championship with those two and which one watched from the bench. I'm not saying this to denigrate Parker, just to suggest that if AJ is comparable to Jacque Vaughn as you suggest, then by your logic JV needs to be starting ahead of Parker.

[urunobili]

AJ was the fifth player in NBA history to increase his scoring average in each of his first seven seasons.

AJ is one of two players under six feet tall to play 1,000 career games in NBA history.

AJ averaged 9.6 assists per game in 1995-96, good for third in the league behind Stockton and Kidd. That's quite a bit better than six. I'd expect someone who was a Spurs fan back then not to have to make up to win an argument, or at very least to know his facts.

Anyway, AJ did all the above BEFORE Tim Duncan joined the team.

AJ topped Tony Parker's career best in assists for a season five times. AJ and Parker each had two full seasons running the point with Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Guess who had more assists. In fact, guess which one contributed to his championship with those two and which one watched from the bench. I'm not saying this to denigrate Parker, just to suggest that if AJ is comparable to Jacque Vaughn as you suggest, then by your logic JV needs to be starting ahead of Parker.

[poop]

AJ was the fifth player in NBA history to increase his scoring average in each of his first seven seasons.

from what, 2 ppg to 10ppg? big deal.

AJ is one of two players under six feet tall to play 1,000 career games in NBA history.

and this means what?

AJ averaged 9.6 assists per game in 1995-96, good for third in the league behind Stockton and Kidd. That's quite a bit better than six. I'd expect someone who was a Spurs fan back then not to have to make up to win an argument, or at very least to know his facts.

so he had a season or 2 with decent assist numbers. with david robinson down low. still not jersey-retirement worthy.

Anyway, AJ did all the above BEFORE Tim Duncan joined the team.

AJ topped Tony Parker's career best in assists for a season five times. AJ and Parker each had two full seasons running the point with Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Guess who had more assists. In fact, guess which one contributed to his championship with those two and which one watched from the bench. I'm not saying this to denigrate Parker, just to suggest that if AJ is comparable to Jacque Vaughn as you suggest, then by your logic JV needs to be starting ahead of Parker.
Parker is a completely different kind of PG than avery was. and if your comparing the 2 your insane, Parker is a million times more effective. and if your suggesting avery would start over Parker...your just being a nostalgic emo.

[Oh, Gee!!]

what??? anyone who says the spurs have declined over the last two years is a witch!!

[Strike]

Bruce is a lock to get #12 retired.

Agreed. If Avery got #6 retired, Bruce is a lock.

[sandman]

Agreed. If Avery got #6 retired, Bruce is a lock.

Every role player that got in 5 years with the club is a lock by that standard.

[Obstructed_View]

Every role player that got in 5 years with the club is a lock by that standard.

And the ignorance keeps pouring in...

[baseline bum]

Agreed. If Avery got #6 retired, Bruce is a lock.

No, Bowen's a lock because he was at worst the third most important player in getting the last three les; definitely the second most important for getting the 2003 ring and arguably #2 in getting the 07 le. Without Bowen, no way does Chauncey Billups not continue murdering the Spurs in OT in game 5 of 2005 either. Billups was as hot as you can get torching everyone else until Pop switched Bowen off Hamilton and onto him with about 2-3 minutes left in OT.