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    I don't care what your stats say.

    When the game is on the line I want the ball in Kobe's hands.

    Apparently so did Team USA in the 2008 Olympics. Neither Melo, Lebron, or anyone else on the court wanted to take that last shot. They all deferred to Kobe who delivered on the world's biggest stage (can you imagine what would have happened had we LOST to Spain)
    haha, trying to count on your intuition again

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    I just saw the highlights, looks like they did foul him at the end but the defender then threw up his hands like he was trying to avoid that call. WTF!? Grab him!!!

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    Kobe Bryant is absolutely incredible in the 4th quarter from minute 12:00 to 0:10 seconds. But his clutch shooting on the final shot of the game is so overrated. Carmelo is incredible on the final, game ending shot.

    It's kind of like Ginobili on the Spurs... Gimme Parker taking the last shot for the Spurs over Manu even though Manu is the better 4th quarter player.

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    Give me Thaddeus Young any day of the year. Dude is a ridiculous 100% on game winning shots.

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    (can you imagine what would have happened had we LOST to Spain)

    Yeah... you would be blaming the loss on someone else, and making excuses for Kobe. The real Dr. House would say that you have some unresolved man-love issues.

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    Clutchness can't be totally encapsulated in how many game winners you hit. I know that doesn't make much sense when you read it, but there is a reason why guys who are more clutch statistically than Kobe is chose to defer to him in last year's Olympics.

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    Hes still a thug and a pussy, he just has a knack for hitting some much needed shots. But I still wouldn't take him over Kobe with that last shot, we saw that in the Olympics.
    Sounds like Carmelo and Gangstalicious are related.

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    Clutchness can't be totally encapsulated in how many game winners you hit. I know that doesn't make much sense when you read it, but there is a reason why guys who are more clutch statistically than Kobe is chose to defer to him in last year's Olympics.
    Because Kobe is a glory-seeking chucker who puts his own heroism above any team he happens to be on due to a fanbase that desperately wants to believe that he's Michael Jordan and is willing to make every excuse for him?

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    We're talking game-winning shots. Kobe is statistically one of the worst players in the league at game-winning shots. Carmelo has year after year been near the top and he's hit 'em from all angles.
    This is one time you are being foolish ...and i think you are one of the best posters on this site.
    Stats are not the best indicator watch the games.
    Of course Kobe's percentage sucks cuz he takes more than ANYONE plus he has been in the position to take many and never shies away from it.
    MJ mmissed a lot as well but made a lot ...just like Kobe ...
    You can take Melo more power to you ...if it's just a hot I have him rated high as well ...but over Kobe you just lost some cool points.
    And as far as Lebron goes great plyer but not the best yet. hat is like saying Bosh or Amare or Dhoward are better than duncan ...that is foolish athletic talent doesnt make you the best ...

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    Mj is better and more clutch than Kobe ..Melo,Lebron wade are not.
    Olympics is one example ...melo finally hit one in the playoffs ...kudos how many has Kobe hit?
    he has game winning or tying jumpers in the Finals,and each round of the playoffs Melo has one ...

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    Give me Thaddeus Young any day of the year. Dude is a ridiculous 100% on game winning shots.
    Exactly!! he has been clutch since college but this is a whole nother level when you say he is better than Kobe in clutch but wait you know more than the PLAYERS who many dislike Kobe ...but still voted him in an SI player poll last year the best clutch shooter ...but wait spur fans are wayyyy more objective!

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    Mj is better and more clutch than Kobe ..Melo,Lebron wade are not.
    Olympics is one example ...melo finally hit one in the playoffs ...kudos how many has Kobe hit?
    he has game winning or tying jumpers in the Finals,and each round of the playoffs Melo has one ...
    Small sample size in the playoffs, for Melo. Melo can always nail it, and if he is even 90% focused, he can be a superstar.

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    melo isnt even the guy on his own team they want with the ball in the last seconds
    Who do you think they want? His clutch stats destroy every player on his team.

    Clutchness can't be totally encapsulated in how many game winners you hit.
    Um, shortbus, I'm specifically talking about game-winners. I'm not talking clutchness. On game-winners, Carmelo has a track record of being deadly. Kobe, on the other hand, has a track record of missing three for every one he hits.

    That doesn't make Kobe unclutch ... he obviously is damn clutch ... but not making game-winners at better than a 25% clip makes you not the best shooter when it comes to game-winners.

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    Don't let facts get in the way, Lakerfan.

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    Exactly!! he has been clutch since college but this is a whole nother level when you say he is better than Kobe in clutch but wait you know more than the PLAYERS who many dislike Kobe ...but still voted him in an SI player poll last year the best clutch shooter ...but wait spur fans are wayyyy more objective!
    Again, Kobe is a clutch shooter, he's just not the BEST shooter when it comes to hitting a game-winner.

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    Melo is badasss but ALWAYS nail it? SO he is better than MJ?

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    Life is good OV. My team is still battling for a championship.

    How are the fish?

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    We're talking about shots in the final ten seconds to either tie or give your team the lead. Melo's numbers are off the charts in this scenario. He's the absolute last guy you want taking a buzzer beater if your team is playing the Nuggets.

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    Life is good OV. My team is still battling for a championship.

    How are the fish?
    Yet all you care about is whether or not Spurfan gives Kobe props that he doesn't deserve. Perspective much?

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    Who do you think they want? His clutch stats destroy every player on his team.



    Um, shortbus, I'm specifically talking about game-winners. I'm not talking clutchness. On game-winners, Carmelo has a track record of being deadly. Kobe, on the other hand, has a track record of missing three for every one he hits.

    That doesn't make Kobe unclutch ... he obviously is damn clutch ... but not making game-winners at better than a 25% clip makes you not the best shooter when it comes to game-winners.
    Ahh "shortbus" mature.
    I went and praised you ... but you are dropping another notch here. attack me because I disagree with you?
    Yes his clutch stats are nice ...but what are you Hollinger and Kamla's love-child? (JK)
    So if i showed you stats that Reggie miller or Ray allen had better true Game winner stats that would mean what?
    If that's the case I take Horry over everyone on this list not named Kobe. And he is a great clutch shooter but I STILL would not take him over Kobe and to be honest when healthy i would take Manu over melo in that situation as well because I watch games with my eyes and go by my feel. When i watch Manu take shots late against the Lakers I feel like he is going to make them most of the time... he is proven he has hit them in Olympics, Playoffs regular season and FINALS ...who cares if Melo's % is better? he has done it ONE TIME!!!!
    Hedu has hit more clutch playoff shots so far in his career

    I would take ray allen and Pierce over Melo as well at this point ...because they are proven!! Hel i bet Gilbert arenas has a good last second percentage ...

    Watch teh game especially playoffs ...kudos to melo he has one but he has FARRRR to go!

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    Players Who Have Hit At Least 7 Game Winners in the Last Five Seasons - Ranked by Percentage
    Antawn Jamison - 56.3%
    Carmelo Anthony - 50.0%
    Pau Gasol - 50.0%
    Hedo Turkoglu - 50.0%
    Mehmet Okur - 46.7%
    Zach Randolph - 41.2%
    Steve Francis - 40.9%
    Derek Fisher - 40.0%
    Allen Iverson - 39.4%
    Tim Duncan - 39.1%
    Ray Allen - 38.5%
    Rashard Lewis - 38.5%
    Chris Paul - 38.1%
    Brandon Roy - 36.8%
    Mike Bibby - 36.4%
    Richard Hamilton - 36.4%
    Andre Iguodala - 36.4%
    Ricky Davis - 35.7%
    Ben Gordon - 35.3%
    Paul Pierce - 34.4%
    LeBron James - 34.0%
    Dirk Nowitzki - 32.4%
    Gilbert Arenas - 32.1%
    Baron Davis - 31.8%
    Vince Carter - 31.4%
    Jason Terry - 30.8%
    Michael Redd - 30.0%
    Raymond Felton - 29.2%
    Tracy McGrady - 28.1%
    Dwyane Wade - 27.5%
    Kevin Garnett - 27.3%
    Joe Johnson - 26.7%
    Jamal Crawford - 25.6%
    Kobe Bryant - 25.0%







    Kobe is dead last on the list, yet Laker Fan can't admit that *gasp* Kobe might not be the absolute best in the NBA in this one aspect of basketball.

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    Ahh "shortbus" mature.
    I went and praised you ...you but you are dropping another notch here. attack me because I disagree.
    Yes his clutch stats are nice ...but what are you Hollinger and Kamla's love-child? (JK)
    So if i showed you stats that Reggie miller or Ray allen had better true Game winner stats that would mean what?
    If that's the case I take Horry over everyone on this list. And he is a great clutch shooter but I STILL would not take him over Kobe and to be honest when healthy i would take Manu over melo in athat situation as well because I watch games with my eyes and go by my feel. When i watch Manu take shots late against the Lakers I feel like he is going to make them most of the time... he is proven he has hit them in Olympics, Playoffs regular season and FINALS ...who cares if Melo's % is better? he has sone it ONE TIME!!!!

    I would take ray allen and Pierce over Melo as well at this point ...because they are proven!! Hel i bet Gilbert arenas has a good last second percentage ...

    Watch teh game especially playoffs ...kudos to melo he has one but he has FARRRR to go!
    Actually, he's done it exactly the same number of times Kobe has, but it's taken him far less attempts to do so.

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    Melo is the best at hitting game-winning shots. Guys like Horry are decent 3-pt shooters, but his rep is enhanced by playing for 7 different le teams and having many opportunities to take wide open threes by playing off of Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan or whomever. He missed a lot of big shots too.

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    Kobe is dead last on the list, yet Laker Fan can't admit that *gasp* Kobe might not be the absolute best in the NBA in this one aspect of basketball.
    So imagine when they have to face that he's the third best on the Lakers.

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