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    You're forgetting Burruchaga.
    Burruchaga was in a scheme where he had to focus on defense first. Don´t be fooled by his goal in the final game.

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    Italy was a solid defensive team (as usual), which is fundamental for winning world cups.
    The WC is all about NOT LOSING. Some games are unwatchable. No team risks anything.

    Germany and Italy, two countries who go deep into every WC, have solid defenses.
    Argentina in ´86 was coached by a defensive minded Bilardo, with 8 players focused on D, and only 2 offensive players (Maradona/Valdano).
    Holland, Spain are countries who play an "entertaining" style, but never won squat.
    Holland and spain do not play attractive football either. they play not to lose, instead of playing to win. theres no chemistry, especially with holland and big lack of motivation. the only ones who really play attractive football are Brasil, Argentina and maybe France next year.

    We'll see. But I know for sure Holland, Spain are not serious winner candidates. I think its between France, Italy, Germany and Argentina.

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    Not to rain on your parade, but even though France was playing poorly before those world cups, in 1998 you had Zidane in his prime and one of a supporting cast. In 06, you still had Zidane, albeit a decrepit version, but even that's better than most and Henry playing at a very high level...

    this time you have squat compared to back then. France isn't winning in 2010. That's my bet. Of course, one can hope... nothing wrong with that.

    P.S. I'd like to add Argentina hasn't won since 86, so I understand what that's like
    well obviously zidane is the goat french player, but he didn't play great in 2006, he had only 2 good games(against brazil and italy). But our team is really talented (ribry, henry, evra, abidal...).

    p.s. our coach is re ed, he never won anything in his career and 80% of french fans doesn't like him. So i can see the french team missing the WC.

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    Holland and spain do not play attractive football either. they play not to lose, instead of playing to win. theres no chemistry, especially with holland and big lack of motivation. the only ones who really play attractive football are Brasil, Argentina and maybe France next year.

    We'll see. But I know for sure Holland, Spain are not serious winner candidates. I think its between France, Italy, Germany and Argentina.
    Spain does play beatiful football right now and Holland has the history of playing great football too but I don't know if they do currently.

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    Spain does play beatiful football right now and Holland has the history of playing great football too but I don't know if they do currently.
    yes they do, last year in the euro championship they were impressive against italy (3-0) and france (4-1). they lost to russia in the QF (russia who by the way was playing the best football in europe last year). that was the best game of the tournament.
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    Dude, Spain plays some of the best football there is right now. Iniesta-Xavi will go down as one of the greatest midfield pairs this game has ever seen, they are both two wizards of the ball.

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    Euro cup and World cup, two completely different things.
    Obviously two different tournaments, but both huge tournaments with many euros wanting the euro le over a WC. The knock on Spain for years is that they faded in big tourneys, but Euro 2008 knocked that monkey clear off their backs. This squad is made for big games with Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield and the ruggedness of big game guys like Puyol in the back. If Fernando gets hot with the ball at the right time they could easily win the WC.

    Bukefal is nothing more than an irrational hater who makes no sense. Spain is playing the best futbol on the planet right now.

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    Dude, Spain plays some of the best football there is right now. Iniesta-Xavi will go down as one of the greatest midfield pairs this game has ever seen, they are both two wizards of the ball.
    Ugh...don´t get carried away.
    They are a good pair, but come on...you are exaggerating a bit.

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    Obviously two different tournaments, but both huge tournaments with many euros wanting the euro le over a WC. The knock on Spain for years is that they faded in big tourneys, but Euro 2008 knocked that monkey clear off their backs. This squad is made for big games with Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield and the ruggedness of big game guys like Puyol in the back. If Fernando gets hot with the ball at the right time they could easily win the WC.

    Bukefal is nothing more than an irrational hater who makes no sense. Spain is playing the best futbol on the planet right now.
    Oh yeah, because we all dont have the same opinions, i must be a hater then. I dont hate Spain at all. I just dont think they, nor Holland are playing such attractive football. I did not say that they do not play good or the best. Its attractivity we are talking about whisky dog , not good or bad. Because a team can be good, but play awful in terms of attractivity. England was such a team.

    I just think Argentina and Brasil as for all other South American nations, it is well known that they play the most attractive football (again, doesnt mean they are the best right now) in World Cups. Dont call me a hater, when you dont even know what we are talking about (Attractivity) and have hate on me.

    Cheers.
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    Dude, Spain plays some of the best football there is right now. Iniesta-Xavi will go down as one of the greatest midfield pairs this game has ever seen, they are both two wizards of the ball.
    Come on...

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    As for Holland, they do not play such attractive football. I must say they did last summer for some games at the European championships. But generally, they just play not to lose, they are not motivated, do not have chemistry and you can see that in most of their games, it infects their style of play. although they have some of the best players in the world.
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    Oh yeah, because we all dont have the same opinions, i must be a hater then. I dont hate Spain at all. I just dont think they, nor Holland are playing such attractive football. I did not say that they do not play good or the best. Its attractivity we are talking about whisky dog , not good or bad. Because a team can be good, but play awful in terms of attractivity. England was such a team.

    I just think Argentina and Brasil as for all other South American nations, it is well known that they play the most attractive football (again, doesnt mean they are the best right now) in World Cups. Dont call me a hater, when you dont even know what we are talking about (Attractivity) and have hate on me.

    Cheers.
    You're seriously trying to argue attractiveness like it's some kind of universal, tangible measurement? That doesn't work, it all depends on what each person likes. I know exactly what you are talking about and it sounds like you are reaching for any reason to hate.

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    Yes it depends on what people likes, and it has to do with personal opinions. So why do you think I have hate just because my opinion is different than yours? I dont have a reason to hate, nor do I want one

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    Italy was a solid defensive team (as usual), which is fundamental for winning world cups.
    The WC is all about NOT LOSING. Some games are unwatchable. No team risks anything.

    Germany and Italy, two countries who go deep into every WC, have solid defenses.
    Argentina in ´86 was coached by a defensive minded Bilardo, with 8 players focused on D, and only 2 offensive players (Maradona/Valdano).
    Holland, Spain are countries who play an "entertaining" style, but never won squat.
    When one of the two O players name is Maradona having only two O players is not really an issue.

    For France to have a chance they need to pass the classification and it will be tough.

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    Woooooooooooooooohooooooooo

    We beat the 2 time defending African champs Egypt 3-0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Scratch that 3-1, damn last minutes goals)


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    Soccer sucks.......but.......USA USA USA

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    Not to rain on your parade, but even though France was playing poorly before those world cups, in 1998 you had Zidane in his prime and one of a supporting cast.
    A of supporting cast ? When your ular striker name is Stéphane Guivarch you cannot talk about a of supporting cast. It was the first time of world cup history when the striker of a world champion team didn't score at all during all the compe ion. Just to remember that Henry and Trezeguet were very young players without experience.
    By the Way the 2000 team was much much better than 98.

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    I expect an African team to do well. Also Portugal could go far. But most likely its the regular soccer power houses Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy, Germany who will be there in the end.

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    as long as mexico loses im happy. i want entertaining games except for mexico. a 10 zip loss is not enough.

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    you seen the new fifa rankns, australia no.16 biatches....

    those diving kents, you know who you are....

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    Also Portugal could go far.
    They need to qualify first. Right now they're not looking so good.

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