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    Bowen didn't have a good first half at all against TMac. Manu played him really well when matched up against him and Bowen played really well against him late. TMac played "scared" of Manu. He is kind of used to Bowen's tactics now.

    By the way Whottt, he was no where close to 9-for-13 against Bowen or whatever. Some of his first half points came against Manu, some came against Barry, and some on fast breaks. He got a couple lucky shots, he got that BS foul on Barry that should have been offensive (when Barry was a frickin' statue). In the first half he shot 6-for-11.

    He plays well against Bruce in stretches, and horrible against Bruce in other stretches. But he was definitely scared/rattled by Manu's style tonight.

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    You must have missed the Houston game where TMac scored 50 points in the final 13 seconds of the game....all on Bowen.
    You must of missed it too. You must have missed the 3 and 1 on Duncan. That is 4 of his miracle points you are talking about right there.

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    Don't forget the last transition 3 over Barry.

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    Um, simply put... No.

    Bowen had a bad game today. That's maybe his second bad game out of 8 against TMac since becoming a Spur. Aside from today and 30 seconds of a previous game during which Jesus Himself could not have stopped McGrady's shots from finding the basket, Bowen has held his own just fine.

    Before today, here are McGrady's numbers against the Spurs since Bowen joined the team:

    2/23/05: 7-21, 22
    1/15/05: 10-28, 28
    12/9/05: 12-29, 33
    4/01/04: 12-26, 30
    1/31/04: 15-36, 35
    2/03/03: 12-36, 26
    11/6/02: 7-21, 20

    That's a whopping 38%. Less than a point per shot, for someone who has averaged 1.25 PPS over that period. And today somehow shifts the advantage to McGrady? He's going to have to pull a couple 40-point games out of the bag before Bowen relinquishes ownership.

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    Kori...I don't think Bowen played badly againt TMac in technique or effort, I think he busted his ass and arguably played harder against him than any other game...I just think TMac his number. And Manu does seem to fluster him more...he seems totally comfortable with Bruce on him.

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    I didn't see Tmac run off any picks when Manu was on him. I'll have to look at the tape.

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    Yes do watch the tape...you'll see TMac hitting a ton of shots over Bruce...even when Bruce has help defending him, even when Rasho and Nazr were helping him...TMac does not sweat Bowen being on him at all, it seems to bring out the best in him...so please do watch that game closely.

    The thing is he is more lilkely to shoot it when Bruce on him as well...I saw him giving the ball up when he had freaking Barry on him...

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    Guess what idiot, when Bowen covers a guy for 35 minutes, he's going to get scored on.

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    he can get scored on if he's only guarding him for 13 seconds, multiple times......blame that on the picks. Dumb ...

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    iceberg right ahead.

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    Yes, when he scored on Duncan and Barry, that was Bruce's fault.

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    That was one...you still have more to make excuses for...

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    That was 6 points.

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    Link? I know he scored on Bowen multiple times...Barry wasn't even on the court until the last ing play where Devin choked. And TMac didn't hit that shot over Barry so I know you are lying...don't make me dig the game out.

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    Barry, Beno -- a white guard.

    Not Bowen.

    You remember everything about the game, so you obviously know that.

    Get the tape.

    Blame all the TOs on Bruce while you're at it.

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    Yawn.

    TMac lights Bowen up...not really due to anything Bowen is doing wrong...he's just playing very well against him..period. I think Manu has more success against him and will continue to think that until it stops being true.

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    TMac lights Bowen up.
    38% shooting, less than a point per shot

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    All the misses are when Barry is covering him.

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    he'll ignore that Spurm.

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    My observation just from today's game is that Bowen doesn't cover TMac as well in man-to-man D because TMac is all over the court, and Bowen doesn't stay on top of him as well as Manu does. In a zone D Bowen covers TMac better, and does a good job of basically forcing him to haul up long 2s and 3s, many of which he still makes when he's shooting well.

    This may just be an anomaly, though, because Bowen is usually one of the best man-to-man defenders I've ever seen. Maybe he was off today, or maybe TMac is particularly hard to cover man-to-man.

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    Game blog.

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    He got a couple lucky shots, he got that BS foul on Barry that should have been offensive (when Barry was a frickin' statue). .
    Far be it for ME to defend the refs and I thought that was a BS call when it happened but when they showed the replay from behind you could see that Barry clearly moved his right shoulder into TMac right before he got there. It was clearly a foul.

    The Mutombo block on Barry looked clean on the replay too. (I can't believe I'm saying this)

    HOWEVER, the foul that wasn't called on Manu as the first half ended was complete BS. We get fouls called on us in the last second of halfs. Why not the other way around?

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    Far be it for ME to defend the refs and I thought that was a BS call when it happened but when they showed the replay from behind you could see that Barry clearly moved his right shoulder into TMac right before he got there. It was clearly a foul.
    I haven't seen a replay. But live, I hated that call

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    Spurm...I know they said TMac has his lowest FG% VS any team against the Spurs...and I know that if you look at striaght PCT's it seems like the Spurs have shut him down this year...but I know Tmac shot well(incredible against him actually, at least 50% IIRC) against Bowen in the Devin Brown game because I broke it down after the game...and I am certain TMac shot well over 50% against Bowen this game. I am certain of it. One game I didn't see but we lost it...and the last game the Rockets were in a definite slump when we played them.


    Chump...that Beno point was stupid...do you see me saying we should put Beno on Tmac? What a you can be.

    We have one great perimeter defender and one all world perimeter defender...and it just so happens one of them seems to either have more luck against TMac or make him less comfortable than the other...

    I am not the only one that noticed it...Hubie noticed that Manu's style was effecting TMac also...He said TMac is probably used to Bowen.

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    I am not the only one that noticed it...Hubie noticed that Manu's style was effecting TMac also...He said TMac is probably used to Bowen.
    You are right. That's what happened tonight. But in general, Bowen gets the best of TMac in stretches, and then TMac gets the best of Bowen. That's what happens when you have to play against one of the best players in the league for extended minutes.

    Bowen will probably watch a lot of tape on TMac now and do some things to adjust if they meet in the playoffs, so that McGrady isn't so "used to" his tactics.

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