Billups top 3 PG in the NBA?

[it's me]

Instead of TP, or next to him?

Instead of ....and bringing Parker off the bench.

[iggypop123]

well unlike tp, cp3, and d-will or nash billups was able to get 16 ft in a playoff game on the road. he is #1 just for that reason

[Brazil]

CB is a leader and he is damn good at BB.
For the rest see the opinion of Jamstone

[Cry Havoc]

williams can't defend for .

Where do people get this idea that Deron Williams is a poor defender? That's insane. One of the reasons he was so highly touted out of Illinois is that he's a great defender, and very smart as well. He's in a league with PGs who are just faster than he is. Watch the decisions he makes defensively during games, and you'll realize he understands exactly what's going on.

It depends what you base it on. Physical talents like speed and quickness, fancy dribbling, and natural play-making ability, he wouldn't be top 3. He's not the most explosive scorer at the point guard position and he's not the best passer or play-maker at the point guard position.

But, if you talk about putting everything together, particularly the intangibles of the point guard position, such as controlling tempo, directing the defense, ball and shot distribution, leadership, clutch shot making, there's definitely an argument for Chauncey. If you're talking about playing and mastering the point guard position, Chauncey has a very strong case.

I agree with this completely. Billups has matured into a fantastic point guard; he understands the game of basketball and he understands his team. He knows when they need a little help and when to sit back and let players around him get hot.

Right now, I'm willing to put Billups as my #2 point in basketball, simply based on the fact that he's a superior defender to almost any PG in the league. Chris Paul has eroded in my eyes because he clearly does not and may never understand how to lead a team. He quits on them and doesn't set an example, and there's a huge difference between a player who is trying to lead and making mistakes because he's young, and a guy who doesn't want to step up and take responsibility for leading his team. So I think Billups and Parker both have to be moved past him.

1. Williams
2a. CB
2b. Parker
4. Chis Paul

[bdubya]

I have a hard time believing that CB just happened to land the PG slot on a team that was all ready to move from good up to elite status....twice.

You could have argued that he landed in Detroit at just the right time, when all the other pieces were coming together - it was hard to say just what he brought to the table v. what Ben, Tay, Rip, etc. contributed. But seeing the transformation in Denver just from plugging him into the lineup says it all. Top 3 most skilled? No. Top 3 most valuable? I'd say yes.

[Kobayagi]

This article was posted in the Pistons part of this message board but I doubt that most of you ever go there.

Great read, great story, great player.

A chiseled high school junior is attempting to inbound the ball underneath his own basket. He's trying not to panic, but this is the Colorado state championship game, and no one's open. The referee is signaling one, two, three … and the kid can't stand the thought of a five-second call. The house is packed because of him, because he's Denver's greatest schoolboy player ever, so an embarrassing turnover is unacceptable. Just being disorganized is unacceptable. He hates disorganized.

Suddenly, he notices the defender guarding the inbounds pass has turned his back to him. So 18-year-old Chauncey throws the ball off the defender's rear end, catches it, drop-steps and dunks with two hands. Chauncey has himself a bucket and an assist.

[hater]

talent wise? he is not even top 10

But he is the smartest PG in the NBA easily, by far. That makes him easily top 3 overall

[TampaDude]

Billups is crafty and has a very high basketball IQ. He tries to make the most of every possession. I'd love to have him on the Spurs.

[JamStone]

Point of clarification. Chauncey is not a great individual defender. In fact, his legend on defense is greatly exaggerated and overrated. He's actually a below average defender. Quick players will blaze by him with ease. But, he's a smart defender and a solid team defender. He will rarely compromise his defensive position to go for steals or gambles. And, most of the time, he'll shade players where he knows he has help. Deron Williams is a better individual defender. A lot of people seem to think Chauncey is a very good defender, which isn't really the case. And, if you watch plays where he has to rely on his own individual defense, it usually isn't pretty. But, he's smart enough to make up for it by playing schemes of team defense well.