It's time for Lakers to trade Kobe

**Rick Von Braun** · 03-29-2005

...there are rumours that the Lakers trade Odom, Caron, filler for Jermaine Oneal, Artest and filler.

This would alleviate there balance issue, but it's probably BS. I would expect more of trade at this point than free agency...possibly throwing in the first round lottery pick for Boozer to the Jazz as they will try to get Bogut...who knows..I'm actually excited this year.

Desperation... I like that...

Odom and Caron for JOneal and Artest

That is one of the most one-sided trades in the history of the NBA... well, not as one-sided as Shaq for Odom and Caron and filler

The Lakers are screwed for several years to come... you better start accepting that fact.

**Medvedenko** · 03-29-2005

Mookie...I'm being very realistic...imagine Vince Carter for erin and eric williams...bull I say...but it happened in my own damn town.

**Medvedenko** · 03-29-2005

Is it really one-sided.....it all depends on how artest's stock is at...imagine him with Kobe..either they would terrorize the D on defense or they would kill each other in the locker room prior to opening tip.

**coz** · 03-29-2005

Wonder if LA would take Manu, Nazr, and a couple picks...?

**Frenchise player** · 03-29-2005

I think that they will accept Tony(PG)+Nazr(low-post presence) for Odom and Atkins but I am not sure RC and Pop would do that.

**Useruser666** · 03-29-2005

I wouldn't trade Kobe for J O'neal if I were Indy.

**kskonn** · 03-29-2005

Originally Posted by Useruser666

I wouldn't trade Kobe for J O'neal if I were Indy.

Yea either would. Good, Really good low post players are to hard to find these days. When you have one keep him. LA understands.

**ducks** · 03-29-2005

Originally Posted by Medvedenko

There are a lot of rumours, however they are severly unbalanced in their current roster. They need a real point and a banger down low. They have like 6 SF's and players that would be good bench players not starters. I love Odom and I think he could do better in a different system and not playing with Kobe. He needs the ball just as much as Kobe. With the triangle, upon Kobe's behest, it would balance the ball handling roles and give everyone touches. This hasn't happened as smoothly because of the in-experience they all have in the O. I would trade Odom, Sucky, and filler for pass first point and defensive presence down low that can rebound, block shots and is very athletic. Of course most teams would love this...there are rumours that the Lakers trade Odom, Caron, filler for Jermaine Oneal, Artest and filler. This would alleviate there balance issue, but it's probably BS. I would expect more of trade at this point than free agency...possibly throwing in the first round lottery pick for Boozer to the Jazz as they will try to get Bogut...who knows..I'm actually excited this year.

good thinking with bogut
if jazz get that pick boozer is gone

**duncan2k5** · 03-29-2005

Originally Posted by Medvedenko

How can you think he'll learn humility and leadership in 1 year with a whole new system and different cast of players around him...man people need to chill....

u got a point...i think. maybe he should ask lebron. he seems to be handling it pretty well

**ducks** · 03-29-2005

yeah james handles the pressure well one of his teamates was unhappy with his playing time
so he goes to his gm and gets his coached fired
seems alot like kobe to me...

**Supergirl** · 03-29-2005

I agree...much like AI and Philly, they couldn't possibly get a shooting guard of equal value for Kobe. But Kobe, like AI, will need to pull his head out of his ass and start playing with a team.

The starting place for the Lakers is a strong coach who Kobe will listen to. That's a two way street - a strong coach like Phil Jackson isn't enough if Kobe isn't willing to listen. But I think the humiliation of not making to playoffs this year while Shaq praces through the East will be motivation for Kobe to listen.

Flip Saunders might be a good fit in LA. Mo Cheeks, maybe.

The Lakers have the talent (if Vlade has a couple more years left in him - if he doesn't, they need a decent center) to do OK, if they actually learn to play as a team and figure out what the they're doing. Kobe, Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, Caron Butler, Chucky Atkins, Devean George, and Slava? That's as much talent as Memphis has - but Memphis plays together better. So does Denver.

**xcoriate** · 03-31-2005

In this case Ducks is pretty much right, I like LBJ but you can easily associate the firing of hic coach with his actions. Cleveland is fretting that James will leave and thus will do anything for him at the moment.

Medvedenko as somone said earlier, Parker for Odom? With fillers?

**milkyway21** · 04-01-2005

forget about the Lakers trading Kobe.

here's a locker-room story:

With the perception Kobe Bryant orchestrated the departures of Shaquille O'Neal and Phil Jackson before re-signing last summer, Lakers coach Frank Hamblen was asked if the superstar guard would take the fall for this season. "I don't think Kobe will take the fall for this," Hamblen said. "I think it was a business decision the franchise made." Vlade Divac stood next to Bryant's locker and waved a hand in front of it. "I know one thing," Divac said. "This guy right here is safe. He's the only one. Everybody else, that's the business." -- Los Angeles Daily News

he's like Spurs' Tim Duncan, everyone else is tradeable any player not named TIM DUNCAN.

But, it would be scary if KG & Kobe play together in L.A.

**mookie2001** · 04-01-2005

wolves would have more experience if they traded KG for divac

**CosmicCowboy** · 04-01-2005

wolves would have more experience if they traded KG for divac

Kevin McHale has led a charmed life surviving all his boneheaded moves and still keeping his job, but even HE wouldn't be able to survive greenlighting a trade THAT bad...

**E20** · 04-01-2005

Let's trade TD for Kobe!

**Iron Giant** · 04-01-2005

“I ain’t the G.M. of this team. Kobe’s the G.M. of this team. Ask Kobe. You’ve been watching this (stuff) all year. You’ve been watching it and I’ve been playing it.”

That's the point of the article, I think...whatever your perception of Kobe's individual talents, Chucky's feelings are indicative of (at least) some players on the team. A year isn't going to do much for that perception, neither is two--it's no doubt the result of interactions we're not seeing. More than anything, Kobe's "leadership" seems to be suffering from a credibility issue. My impression is, unlike MJ, he doesn't have the personality to be the featured weapon on a winning team (this lot obviously doesn't want to play with him). Kobe's trying to be the leader, but he's not getting the team to buy in.

, at this point, I wonder if he could even get along well with TD. Here's hoping he ends up on the Griz....maybe given the chance, the logo really could straighten him out.

**Medvedenko** · 04-01-2005

Iron Giant....those comments by Chucky were a fabrication of the media and the trying to bait Chucky, Odom and Caron to say evil about Kobe.....all BS. Atkins recinded those comments and they were actualy said about Mitch than Kobe.

**Iron Giant** · 04-01-2005

Uh...so you're saying both the Times and the Daily reporters got the quote wrong? I'd be hard pressed to believe that both home-town rags would fabricate the same tale independently. More likely Chucky said it, and is backing away to save face now. I'd put more credence in your version (and Chucky's revisionist one) if it was a mullet-wrapper from out o' town. I'll have to take a look around for the original articles....

**duncan2k5** · 04-01-2005

so how does "ask Kobe" mean "ask mitch"? hmmm...

**ducks** · 04-01-2005

kobe for kg?

**milkyway21** · 04-01-2005

KG & Kobe in L.A. could be dangerous...

or;

Kobe & J O'Neal

but, it would be impossible for the Wolves to let go of a player in KG's caliber...so....

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