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    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    Old people get more senile and can lot's of times be belligerent. She could have fallen onto the highway and started going into convulsions, and he would have had to put his own life at risk to pull her out before she got run over. Sometimes you have to use a little common sense in life and just cuff the lady.

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    That cop was being a dumbass. After she said that she'd sign the ticket he should have let her. Dude needs to learn when to use discretion.

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    I cant believe that everyone here is not appalled at 300 lb man roughing up a 72 year old grandmother…I don’t care if she cussed at him…The guy is obviously an insecure whack job & has no business serving as a police officer…

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    ''what if'' the stupid old lady did what was she told by the cop.
    She wouldn't have been tazed.

    Don't you think a young healthy cop could have used another alternative on a 72 y/o woman?

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    You just can't do things like that!

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    I usually end up on the side of the cops in these debates but I disagree with the blue onn this one. He could have easily just handcuffed her and taken her in. He basically just tazered her because she dared him.

    Even pride tazering is acceptable in some cases but not a 72-year-old lady.

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    Maybe the best time to be arguing against excessive police force against old people isn't the day after an 88 year old man walked into a museum with guns blazin'.

    Yeah, it was a lady - but she was warned plenty of times. What's the age cutoff? Is 60 too old? 50? 40?

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    police should never taser anyone just because they say something the officer doesn't like or act disrespectful..it should only be used in a situation where the suspect becomes violent and is a threat to someone. officers are people too, they aren't above the law and can't go around beating ass and tasering because people piss them off.

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    What if he would have used his size and strength to physically subdue her and in her effort to resist she broke her hip and then a week later suffered a massive stroke due to a blood clot from the broken hip?

    What if he had tried to gently restrain her and she bit him on the arm puncturing his skin with her tooth and then it was discovered that she was an aids infected granny ?

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    the cop was out of line.. if a large policeman cannot handcuff a 72 yr old grandma with having to taser her something is wrong.

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    Both parties were just victims of lawyers.

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    Cops in Utah tazed a man to death

    WASHINGTON COUNTY -- A Utah man returning to Arizona to continue work on a PhD died after being tased by police outside Hurricane Tuesday afternoon. It's a story that hits at KSL because 32-year-old Brian Cardall is the son of longtime reporter and now editorial director Duane Cardall.

    A Washington County critical task force has already started looking into Brian's death. He, his wife and daughter were returning to their Arizona home following a trip to see family in Utah.

    According to family members, Brian struggled with a mental illness and began having an episode just outside Hurricane on state Road 59. The family pulled over to get Cardall medicine when he started running down the road.

    Law enforcement was called; Hurricane police were the first to respond. It was actually one of their officers who deployed the Taser. Police say Brian collapsed, unconscious.

    "Medical was right there. We had dispatched both because of the cir stances of the call. They were there immediately. The subject went unconscious. We transported the subject to the hospital where he was pronounced dead," explained Chief Deputy Rob Tersigni, of the Washington County Sheriff's Office.

    Brian's loss is devastating to his family members, who call him exceptionally talented and gifted. He was a PhD candidate in ecological genetics, had already been published in a half-dozen national journals and hoped one day to teach.

    He leaves behind a wife, a daughter, Ava, and a baby due in September. He recently learned that it is another girl and was looking forward to her birth.

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    He could have easily caused her harm had he tried to physically restrain her. Normal procedure of taking her arm and putting it behind her back could have resulted ina broken arm and if she went down with him on top? He did what he had to do.

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    He could have easily caused her harm had he tried to physically restrain her. Normal procedure of taking her arm and putting it behind her back could have resulted ina broken arm and if she went down with him on top? He did what he had to do.
    Dude thats alot less dangerous to an old lady than ing tazering her. She could have went into cardiac arrest, stroke, etc. Tazing old women is just wrong any way you spin it

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    What if he would have used his size and strength to physically subdue her and in her effort to resist she broke her hip and then a week later suffered a massive stroke due to a blood clot from the broken hip?

    What if he had tried to gently restrain her and she bit him on the arm puncturing his skin with her tooth and then it was discovered that she was an aids infected granny ?
    What if dinosaurs were real and they stepped on my car? Would my insurance cover it?

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    What if dinosaurs were real and they stepped on my car? Would my insurance cover it?

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    Don't you think a young healthy cop could have used another alternative on a 72 y/o woman?
    you know an 88 year old man just killed a guard recently

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    Dude thats alot less dangerous to an old lady than ing tazering her. She could have went into cardiac arrest, stroke, etc. Tazing old women is just wrong any way you spin it
    You are probably right. I would not find him guilty though if he were to get sued.

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    non-lethal tasers have killed about 500 people.

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    I didn't think the cop was out of line here but the fact that even Clandestino does makes me think I'm wrong.

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    I didn't think the cop was out of line here but the fact that even Clandestino does makes me think I'm wrong.
    After seeing the video, there is no way this man should be a cop if he can't arrest a feeble 72yr old woman without 15,000 volts.

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    He probably could have physically restrained here pretty easily...but you never know. I've seen some strong ass old ladies in the psych hospital I work at. I think he should have attempted to restrain her first and if she became overly comba ive then maybe go for the tazer.

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    Actually, I'm with the cop. She was belligerent, was not obeying his orders, was crowding him back to a busy road on more than one occasion and she was warned plenty of times that she needed to step back, sign the ticket and not to leave.

    I absolutely think she was expecting a pass because she was old and she was acting irresponsibly in forcing him (and them) back towards the road. Would it be better if he had been able to arrest her without it, yes. Did he have good opportunity without being accused of being too physically aggressive with an elderly woman? No. She was fighting the cuffs and everything. Given all the lawsuits and given that there was a camera recording his repeated warnings to follow directions and telling her he would taze her, I think he did the best he could in a no-win situation.

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    I back the blue.

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    I'm still undecided on this. I could easily see the possibility of having to taze a 70-year-old man in good shape (I had an uncle who, at 70, could still climb a flagpole using just his hands), but a woman of that age should be able to be easily physically subdued. But that doesn't change the fact that she acted very badly, was warned about the consequences, and continued to act in a nonproductive manner. I have more sympathy for the cop; he was put into a position that was bound to end badly one way or the other.

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