No, he shouldn't be suspended, just because it's the Finals. But no doubt, it was a dirty play by a front-runner who showboats like crazy when his team is on top but apparently melts like a little when he's on the other side of the coin.
Those saying that Gasol was running up the score is ridiculous. Unless you're up by double digits at that point in the game, you keep scoring when the opportunity is there.
And Pietrus should be suspended. It clearly looked like a frustration foul that potentially could've injured Gasol.
speculation time since we dont have a game till sunday. is he gone or not? this is the most damning evidence against him. its basically two closes fists in the back.
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I'm not so sure
Maybe he noticed a mosquito on Gasol's jersey and wanted to kill it
man, that could have resulted in a serius injury
Bad play but he didn't really push with open hands which would have made it much worse
Pietrus looks like he's going to hammer the out of him at first with his fists but if you watch the ing replay he lets up alot and actually uses the back of his forearms.. the end result can't even be considered a punch or hit, it ends up being a push to the back, BFD
LMAO any anyone that thinks this could have caused an injury. Pietrus pushed him "so hard" Gasol doesn't even let go the rim.
son....orlando making 3's, anythign can happen. You got an open dunk, u do it. Especially when they're still trying to foul.
Its absolutely pathetic that people are clamoring for suspension on this play when Kobe can throw a vicious elbow to the face in full view of 3 refs and not even get a foul called.
Seriously, I hope D Howard throws one of his hardest elbows EVER into Kobe's jaw next time Kobe tries to jump on him under the basket.
I gaurantee the little Kobe will never attempt that again.
lol..did you not see the replays...Nelson feet were inside of Kobe and Kobe was teh guy standing there. lol.
Its like me suing a wall cuz i ran into it.
So, according to you... its ok to throw a flagrantly intentional elbow to someone's face any time an opposing player is next to another and their feet are close together? Is that what your telling me? Are you ing serious?
If the NBA worked like that the elbows would be flying non-stop.
C'mon man, its one thing to use your arm and shoulder to move somebody out of your "personal space", which he could have done. Its quite another to throw a vicious elbow directed into someone's face.
I really hope next time Kobe comes skipping into the paint to bearhug Dwight are rake him across the arm, Dwight's elbow finds Kobe's face. Of course, then it'll be a flagrant foul on Dwight I'm sure, not "running into the wall".
Good hard foul, should not be suspended
yeah, because getting a flagrant 2 on Howard is the best way to win the gameI really hope next time Kobe comes skipping into the paint to bearhug Dwight are rake him across the arm, Dwight's elbow finds Kobe's face. Of course, then it'll be a flagrant foul on Dwight I'm sure, not "running into the wall".
This is not a playground, the final objective is to win the trophy, not take vendettas or make statments fouls
He'll get suspended for that. Even though it didn't hurt Gasol it LOOKED very malicious in its intent and that will get you a suspension every single time.
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lol come on you pansies, the slow mo effect makes it seem worse.
let him play...it's the finals, hard fouls are a part of the game
No, I wouldnt be complaining if it happened in the last 30 seconds of a game that my team was going to win to put my team up 3-1 in the NBA Finals. Sorry, but there is nothing to complain about here. I would be too happy with my team to start complaining about something like this. Its re ed.
Yes it probably was a flagrant foul but who cares. I just dont get why some fans just cant enjoy their victory that put their team up 3-1 in the NBA Finals instead of complaining about some last second no call. Makes zero sense.
Its the NBA.... Most fans expect too much out of the refs. If you have watched enough NBA games you should already know that the refs suck balls so you should be used to it by this point in the season.
That doesn't even look like any foul to me. Kobe's picking up the ball to pass to Fish. There's no follow-through on the elbow, notice it barely clips Jameer and stops right there. There ain't no swinging of the elbows, and it looks like somebody just picking up a basketball for an overhead pass.should kobe be suspended?
This is more of Jameer running into Kobe's space; as somebody else mentioned, check out Jameer's feet. Kobe was already set, Jameer was not as he ran into the play, if there's a foul to be called, it would be on Jameer.
There is no foul to be called. This was nothing and anyone who thinks its a foul on kobe doesnt know much about basketball. I hate the lakers as much as anyone else but its stupid to think that this was a foul on kobe.
And By the way, the flagrant foul by Pietrus was reviewed and they didnt punish him anymore than whatever happened in the game.
Great on both counts.
That Kobe elbow doesn't look like a foul to me. Kobe is going to his right just as Jameer is coming towards him. If Jameer was set, maybe, but he is moving towards Kobe's elbows and winds up in Kobe's space.
Pietrus punch/push looks like it could justify a suspension but I don't think the NBA suspends him. Stupid play by Pietrus.
confirmed. pietrus will not face further action. i guess a flagrant 1 is enough
Clearly, you have never actually played basketball and know nothing about the rules.
Clearly, you have.
Last edited by cobbler; 06-12-2009 at 12:56 PM.
I still stand by my original interpretation.. that this COULD be construed as a foul, and yes it SHOULD be. Why, you may ask?
When I look at the replay it appears Kobe moves into Jameer just as much as Jameer is moving into him, but the telling part is after Kobe elbows him in the mouth, you can see Kobe stops moving towards Jameer, changes direction to straighten up.
That's why it looks intentional, not accidental. If his intention is not to hit Jameer with his elbow, why does he not just go straight up to begin with, as he can clearly pass over the much shorter Nelson. That should be the part of the criteria for a foul of this nature, whether there is intention to throw the elbow. In this case I submit there looks to be intention on Kobe's part.
Regardless, its like I said before if this is not a foul, then it should also be perfectly legal that anytime Howard has the ball in the painted area and the little pests (Kobe and Fisher) come traipsing into his personal space (and they have done it time and time again) to hack and grab at the ball, their jaw and facial bones should also be fair game for Howard's elbows.
that elbow on kobe should have caused a whistle to blow either foul on kobe or nelson
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