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    Though Jerome James hasn't lit the world on fire in New York, it's hard to take the team's performance in general seriously during Isaiah's tenure, especially given his interesting rotations, etc. D'Antoni had no place for him within his offense.

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    Though Jerome James hasn't lit the world on fire in New York, it's hard to take the team's performance in general seriously during Isaiah's tenure, especially given his interesting rotations, etc. D'Antoni had no place for him within his offense.
    I see where you are coming from, but try going to any Knicks board and pitch that to them. You won't find many agreeing with you.

    Every time Knicks fans mention him, they are usually trying to categorize how worthless he is exactly in terms of Knicks history.

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    Jerome James also had monster games against the Kings that year, if I remember right.

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    They are choosing to go hard after someone they can actually get.

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    I see where you are coming from, but try going to any Knicks board and pitch that to them. You won't find many agreeing with you.

    Every time Knicks fans mention him, they are usually trying to categorize how worthless he is exactly in terms of Knicks history.

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    He hasn't really gotten a real chance to show his worth or lack there of. Part of it I believe was due to injury or poor conditioning. He's been in the doghouse from one regime to the next beyond that.

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    Jerome James also had monster games against the Kings that year, if I remember right.
    You're correct. He had some monster games in extended minutes against the Kings in the first round, then some good games in somewhat more limited minutes against the Spurs in the second round.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...=383&year=2005

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    What's to keep people like me from e-mailing "YAO IS BROKE! RUN FOR THE HILLS" to Gortat?

    .......brb

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    What's to keep people like me from e-mailing "YAO IS BROKE! RUN FOR THE HILLS" to Gortat?

    .......brb
    We're about to find out... go for it!

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    It's always dangerous signing a big man who has looked good in limited minutes. Obviously, it could pay off handsomely, but there have been many disasters in recent NBA history.
    rockets could only offer the MLE at the very most and i highly doubt he even offers that much. i also doubt morey will be willing to give gortat anything longer than 3 years since that has been his modus operandi with free agents. he simply doesn't offer long term deals to role players. he only offered wafer 1.75mil/year for 2 years and wafer obviously turned it down. i liked wafer but he was a major bonehead at times...especially during the playoffs when adelman had to send him to the locker room. i'm pretty sure that dumbass earned his ticket out of town after that re ed incident.

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    MLE to Gortat is overpaying. Anything more than $3 mil starting/3 years is too much.

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    Overpaying for big men is what the NBA is all about..

    Marcin will get his money, and he won't disappoint IMO..

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    MLE to Gortat is overpaying. Anything more than $3 mil starting/3 years is too much.
    i agree it's overpaying but i am just saying that full mle for 3 years wouldn't be a complete trainwreck since it is only 3 years. and i am pretty certain morey doesn't want to use the full mle on gortat since he suggested he would like to use some of it on our 2nd rounders to lock them up longer and potentially cheaper...if they perform well.

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    Overpaying for big men is what the NBA is all about..

    Marcin will get his money, and he won't disappoint IMO..
    I'm in the minority, epsecially with the numbers being tossed around, but I still wouldn't mind seeing him here.

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    I don't like Gortat. I hope he sign with the Rockets

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    I wonder what his mentality is. Is he willing to be strictly a back up playing 15-20 minutes a night, which would be the case in Houston. Its not a given yet that Yao will be out for the entire 2009-2010 season.

    Or, does he feel like if he signs elsewhere such as with the Mavs he can compete for a starting job against Erik Dampier, or share equal minutes off the bench. Maybe he doesnt care about winning over getting paid since he hasnt had that lucrative deal yet. He could take an offer from Indiana or New York if its for the same money as Houston, if he feels like he has a chance to become a full time starter.

    But either way, i think hes going to be overpaid. Its a classic case of premature ejaculation from NBA GM's paying for potential and being 7 feet. I think he might get something starting at $4.5M over 5 years, totalling about $30M.

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    Stromile Swift 2005 v2. ?

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    Stromile Swift 2005 v2. ?
    I think more Jerome James, which is why i think New York might ultimately stay away.

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    I know I was one of the first people to bring up Jerome James, but to be fair, I don't think the comparison as far as the players and skill sets go is very valid. I think whoever signs Gortat will generally be happy with his defense and work ethic. However, the reason I brought up Jerome James is that I feel someone is poised to give Gortat $5+ million per year, and I don't think he will be productive enough or consistent enough to be worth that kind of money, especially if you tie up that money for 4-5 years.

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    what's the problem. we should be happy if the Rockets spend their MLE for Gortat. this means one compe or for Sheed/Dyess gone.
    (they were rumored to have a great chance to land McDyess, since he lives in Houston)
    Gortat isn't a bad idea for them. he can play a Dikembe impersonation and alongside Scola or Landry he should fit pretty well.

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    what does this has to do with the spurs? NBA forum?

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    that ones almost better then Dampiers 7 year, 73 million.
    Brian Cardinal, anyone? 6 years, 37 million. It pales in comparison to the numbers on Dampier's contract, but at least Dampier was somewhat of a decent player (not for the money).

    Whenever I think of people getting overpaid just because the FA market is in need of that type player, I think of BC. That guy's set for life off some good timing.


    Here's another fun article: The NBA's 68 worst contracts.


    Note to Spurs: DON'T DO THAT

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    He deserves more than MLE.... Gortat > Varejao

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    He deserves more than MLE.... Gortat > Varejao
    Varejao is looking to get a contract worth over 40 million, so if Gortat's better than half of Varejao then it's not that terrible of a contract.

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    i do not recall gortat doing anything at all against gasol, bynum or odom in the finals. he appears to be a nice back up but not anything at all the dissimilar to a nazir mohammed, elson or rasho.

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