Russia must re-focus with post-imperial eyes

[Extra Stout]

You people picking on Palin don't know what you're talking about. Two things:

1) Even though the state capital of Juneau is several hundred miles further away from Russia than Wasilla is, Governor Palin has a crystal ball in her office that allows her to see into Vladimir Putin's soul and know what he is up to. This crystal ball is magic and can never be removed from the state of Alaska. Sarah had to work a very long time to become a White Wizard so she could use this ball. George W. Bush once had a counterfeit crystal ball, so when he thought he was looking into Valdimir Putin's soul, he was actually looking into John Malkovich. So this is a very, very important national security issue.

2) The chief job of the governor of Alaska is not to run the executive branch of government from Juneau. There is an observation tower on the western tip of Alaska overlooking the Bering Strait, and it is the governor's job to sit in that tower with binoculars and look across the strait to see if the Russians are doing anything su ious. Governor Palin kept herself in fantastic shape climbing up and down the ladder to that tower. So again, a very, very important national security issue.

Sarah just got sick and tired of toiling day after day to protect America with her crystal ball and her binoculars, and getting nothing but grief. So she quit.

[Wild Cobra]

Can you summarize? I don't have audio here at the moment.

I just edited the post, added the article from the LA Times that calls him the Magic Negro a year earlier than the parody song. In the song, it specifically states the LA Times called him the Magic Negro. The YouTube of Rush gives a detailed history of how the song came into existence.

Barack the Magic Negro

Paul Shanklin

[ElNono]

So why is Limbaugh's explanation acceptable and Letterman's explanation not?

The better question would be: Why would anybody's opinion trump what's clearly spelled out by the 1st amendment and supported by many years of case law?

[Wild Cobra]

So why is Limbaugh's explanation acceptable and Letterman's explanation not?

When is it ever comical to say a 14 year old child is having sex?

[Wild Cobra]

The better question would be: Why would anybody's opinion trump what's clearly spelled out by the 1st amendment and supported by many years of case law?

It has been deemed OK to slander a public official. Palin's 14 year old daughter is not a politician or public figure, and Letterman should be sued.

[jman3000]

When is it ever comical to say a 14 year old child is having sex?

You're being disengenous and you know it. This has been gone over ad nauseum and if you're that dense that you still want to believe that then that's your business.

[ElNono]

You people picking on Palin don't know what you're talking about. Two things:

1) Even though the state capital of Juneau is several hundred miles further away from Russia than Wasilla is, Governor Palin has a crystal ball in her office that allows her to see into Vladimir Putin's soul and know what he is up to. This crystal ball is magic and can never be removed from the state of Alaska. Sarah had to work a very long time to become a White Wizard so she could use this ball. George W. Bush once had a counterfeit crystal ball, so when he thought he was looking into Valdimir Putin's soul, he was actually looking into John Malkovich. So this is a very, very important national security issue.

2) The chief job of the governor of Alaska is not to run the executive branch of government from Juneau. There is an observation tower on the western tip of Alaska overlooking the Bering Strait, and it is the governor's job to sit in that tower with binoculars and look across the strait to see if the Russians are doing anything su ious. Governor Palin kept herself in fantastic shape climbing up and down the ladder to that tower. So again, a very, very important national security issue.

Sarah just got sick and tired of toiling day after day to protect America with her crystal ball and her binoculars, and getting nothing but grief. So she quit.

Your satire is not funny unless Rush Limbaugh says it is.

(DISCLAIMER FOR PALIN FANS: This post is satire)

[Wild Cobra]

You people picking on Palin don't know what you're talking about. Two things:

1) Even though the state capital of Juneau is several hundred miles further away from Russia than Wasilla is, Governor Palin has a crystal ball in her office that allows her to see into Vladimir Putin's soul and know what he is up to. This crystal ball is magic and can never be removed from the state of Alaska. Sarah had to work a very long time to become a White Wizard so she could use this ball. George W. Bush once had a counterfeit crystal ball, so when he thought he was looking into Valdimir Putin's soul, he was actually looking into John Malkovich. So this is a very, very important national security issue.

2) The chief job of the governor of Alaska is not to run the executive branch of government from Juneau. There is an observation tower on the western tip of Alaska overlooking the Bering Strait, and it is the governor's job to sit in that tower with binoculars and look across the strait to see if the Russians are doing anything su ious. Governor Palin kept herself in fantastic shape climbing up and down the ladder to that tower. So again, a very, very important national security issue.

Sarah just got sick and tired of toiling day after day to protect America with her crystal ball and her binoculars, and getting nothing but grief. So she quit.

Now this type of humor is acceptable. It is obviously fantasy, and cannot be misconstrued as truth, or seen as a lie.

[Wild Cobra]

You're being disengenous and you know it. This has been gone over ad nauseum and if you're that dense that you still want to believe that then that's your business.

Everyone knew that it was the younger daughter at the game.

[jman3000]

Everyone knew that it was the younger daughter at the game.

You're being disengenous and you know it. This has been gone over ad nauseum and if you're that dense that you still want to believe that then that's your business.

[ElNono]

It has been deemed OK to slander a public official. Palin's 14 year old daughter is not a politician or public figure, and Letterman should be sued.

Deemed ok by who? You can sue anybody for slander.
The problem is that you need to prove it was not satire.
I'm sorry you only like freedom of speech when it fits your ideological canvas.
Fortunately that's not how it works.

[Wild Cobra]

Deemed ok by who? You can sue anybody for slander.
The problem is that you need to prove it was not satire.
I'm sorry you only like freedom of speech when it fits your ideological canvas.
Fortunately that's not how it works.

Is there an age appropriate concept in your mind, or are you a member of groups like NAMBLA?

[ElNono]

Now this type of humor is acceptable. It is obviously fantasy, and cannot be misconstrued as truth, or seen as a lie.

Only your wicked mind can construe my post as either truth or anything real.
You seriously need to lighten up.

[Wild Cobra]

Only your wicked mind can construe my post as either truth or anything real.
You seriously need to lighten up.

A parady of something that happens can be funny. A parody of a parody is lame, and in this case, with the slander that already evolved from it and being negative, had no place in comedy that's any better than a Niger joke.

[ElNono]

Is there an age appropriate concept in your mind, or are you a member of groups like NAMBLA?

I'm a member of the 'respect the cons ution' group.
When something is clearly satire, I don't think there are any bounds.
That's my opinion, and I believe it's the current prevalent opinion in case law.

If there are any doubts, then there's a legal avenue to pursue.
I would actually say that if you're a card carrying Republican member you probably have enough grounds to sue. Why don't you talk less and go do something about it? I don't think it will go particularly well for you, but go right ahead.

[ElNono]

A parady of something that happens can be funny. A parody of a parody is lame, and in this case, with the slander that already evolved from it and being negative, had no place in comedy that's any better than a Niger joke.

Slander and Parody are mutually exclusive. It's either parody/satire OR slander. Make up your mind.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm a member of the 'respect the cons ution' group.
When something is clearly satire, I don't think there are any bounds.
That's my opinion, and I believe it's the current prevalent opinion in case law.

If there are any doubts, then there's a legal avenue to pursue.
I would actually say that if you're a card carrying Republican member you probably have enough grounds to sue. Why don't you talk less and go do something about it? I don't think it will go particularly well for you, but go right ahead.

I don't question the legality. I question your morality. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.

[jman3000]

All the Republicans on this board are "independent". No card carriers here.

[ElNono]

I don't question the legality. I question your morality. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.

IOW, we are back on the preaching partisan morals camp.

[Wild Cobra]

IOW, we are back on the preaching partisan morals camp.

At times, I'm the first to give harsh words of people here, or make bad jokes. At least those people are here to defend themselves.

Humor is generally based on truth. The Tina Fey skit was funny. The problem came when other people repeated the concept as fact. Then to take and make humor based on what is now a lie, is absolutely in bad taste. I fail to understand how it is any funnier than a racial joke, where only the bigots think it's funny.

[ChumpDumper]

I think it's hilarious.

COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We -- we do -- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where -- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is -- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to -- to our state.



Maybe you could tell us what she was "implying" here.

Are you a moore-on purposely?

Fact: Russia is less than three miles from Alaska, and can be seen from Alaska.

Fact: Wasilla is far away, nowhere close to the western part of Alaska that it's impossible to see Russia from there.

I couldn't help but notice you didn't say what she was implying at all.

What does her mentioning Putin's rearing his head have anything to do with Palin's claimed negotiations with Russia?

[Wild Cobra]

I couldn't help but notice you didn't say what she was implying at all.

I was going to read the unedited transcript and answer that, but got sidetracked doing other things. I simply don't remember everything.

What does her mentioning Putin's raising his head have anything to do with Palin's claimed negotiations with Russia?

"Rears" his head.

I assume that simply has to do with having to be ready, defensively, since Alaska is the nearest US target.

I don't have those answers for you.

[ChumpDumper]

I was going to read the unedited transcript and answer that, but got sidetracked doing other things. I simply don't remember everything.

But you acted as if all the evidence was already there. What was I missing in that quote as written?

"Rears" his head.

I assume that simply has to do with having to be ready, defensively, since Alaska is the nearest US target.

What does Palin have to do with that specifically? Does she negotiate defense treaties with Russia? The question was about negotiation.

I don't have those answers for you.

That's for sure.

[Wild Cobra]

But you acted as if all the evidence was already there. What was I missing in that quote as written?

Alaska does play a roll simply because of proximity. Even though most things are dealt with at the federal level, she is the chief executor and commander in chief of Alaska. She does have a small roll at least. The specific facts, I'm not going to bother with looking up. It was been explained, and the unedited transcript, at least for the other interview, had stuff in that answer that was deleted.

[ChumpDumper]

Alaska does play a roll simply because of proximity. Even though most things are dealt with at the federal level, she is the chief executor and commander in chief of Alaska. She does have a small roll at least. The specific facts, I'm not going to bother with looking up. It was been explained, and the unedited transcript, at least for the other interview, had stuff in that answer that was deleted.

How could she answer Couric's question in "the other interview"? Palin was asked the question in this interview, the exchange was right there in front of you.

You're just making up now.

She does have a small roll at least.

And that role entails what?