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  1. #26
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    Get over yourself. What has Nash won in Phoenix? What has Harris won in New Jersey? You're not a Mavs fan. Not when you actively root against and hate the Mavs. We can hate certain personnel moves or certain players or coaches that we feel are a detriment to winning, but your rhetoric comes across as rooting against the Mavs. You're not a Mavs fan.
    Nash had won two consecutive regular season MVPs which easily beat Marion's zero trophy. Although our team surely got upgraded by the acquirement of Marion, I still think it was not a perfect move as long as we could have used Stack's contract more wisely. Marion has been playing pretty bad in these two season and his previous 16m/yr contract was purely a cancer, the new contract he signed with Mavs is discounted in average value but the length would also make it a poison if Marion started to crap out in 2-3 years, then in the next seasons he would turn into a burden like Stack until the outrageous contracts enters expiring year. Stack's 7m contract (5m already bought out) was surely an ideal medicine for the teams suffering financial diseases, but Donnie got re ed again and traded this fortune for a sun of dusk.

    It's unknown if Smokey is still fit for SG position, and our center spot might remain a big hole if Gortat isn't actually as good as expected. We still haven't got a team asking about any trade for Damp though we all know it makes no sense for us to let his contract expires in Dallas. Probably Damp will stay on Mavs through next season as Gortat's backup.

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    Nash had won two consecutive regular season MVPs which easily beat Marion's zero trophy. Although our team surely got upgraded by the acquirement of Marion, I still think it was not a perfect move as long as we could have used Stack's contract more wisely. Marion has been playing pretty bad in these two season and his previous 16m/yr contract was purely a cancer, the new contract he signed with Mavs is discounted in average value but the length would also make it a poison if Marion started to crap out in 2-3 years, then in the next seasons he would turn into a burden like Stack until the outrageous contracts enters expiring year. Stack's 7m contract (5m already bought out) was surely an ideal medicine for the teams suffering financial diseases, but Donnie got re ed again and traded this fortune for a sun of dusk.

    It's unknown if Smokey is still fit for SG position, and our center spot might remain a big hole if Gortat isn't actually as good as expected. We still haven't got a team asking about any trade for Damp though we all know it makes no sense for us to let his contract expires in Dallas. Probably Damp will stay on Mavs through next season as Gortat's backup.
    Damp is a good rebounder and plays D....we ain't trading him this year. Also, I'm in favor of starting Damp. If we get Gortat he can come off the bench....probably get more mins than Damp and finish the game...as long as he plays better. Starting lineup:

    C - Damp
    PF - Dirk
    SF - Marion
    SG - Howard
    PG - Kidd

    Bench: Terry, Gortat, Ross, Hollins, Singelton, Barera and that Black-white guy we got in the Marion trade


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    What has Harris won in New Jersey?
    Devin Harris has won nothing in NJ yet, but he wasn't expected to? What has Kidd won in Dallas nothing and his time is running out fasters then Devin in NJ

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    Are you crazy??? Mavs >>> Orlando. How that team got to the Finals this year is unknown...they are not really that good. Expect for them to be the 3-4th seed at best and lose by the 2nd round
    I think your the crazy if you think Mavs were better then the Magic last year. What team made it to the finals? what team beat the Cavs who were better then pretty much all the teams last year? Oh yeah that's right Magic that's who. I do expect them to be 1-4 seed this year in the East and Dallas around the same in the west. Magic is better the Mavs though any day any time.

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    I think this POS just stole Bass from us and is planning on matching Gortat's offer. If he does this Cuban's aim should be to f him over in the future somehow. Mavs would be pretty screwed since Bass is already gone. Guess they could split the MLE and sign two players though
    now why would the Magic be stupid and match Gortat's offer, just so he could back up Howard?

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    Nash had won two consecutive regular season MVPs which easily beat Marion's zero trophy. Although our team surely got upgraded by the acquirement of Marion, I still think it was not a perfect move as long as we could have used Stack's contract more wisely. Marion has been playing pretty bad in these two season and his previous 16m/yr contract was purely a cancer, the new contract he signed with Mavs is discounted in average value but the length would also make it a poison if Marion started to crap out in 2-3 years, then in the next seasons he would turn into a burden like Stack until the outrageous contracts enters expiring year. Stack's 7m contract (5m already bought out) was surely an ideal medicine for the teams suffering financial diseases, but Donnie got re ed again and traded this fortune for a sun of dusk.

    It's unknown if Smokey is still fit for SG position, and our center spot might remain a big hole if Gortat isn't actually as good as expected. We still haven't got a team asking about any trade for Damp though we all know it makes no sense for us to let his contract expires in Dallas. Probably Damp will stay on Mavs through next season as Gortat's backup.
    Be careful. They might label you a mav hater for telling the truth. All I can say is we better not be done with free agents. Marion isn't the answer. Neither is Gortat. As long as Kidd is our starting point guard, we are in trouble.

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    Like it or not the Magic need Gortat. Who do they have off the bench these days besides Pietrus?

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    Dampier and Gortat for14 mill ---awesome! By Nov Dirt will be involved in a custody battle and will be more of a mental case. Kidd and Marion un ed for another ring drive--scary. Hopefully, house will resign so that he can glare at Manu from the bench!

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    Devin Harris has won nothing in NJ yet, but he wasn't expected to? What has Kidd won in Dallas nothing and his time is running out fasters then Devin in NJ
    Devin Harris is a one-trick pony and the Mavs went farther last year with Kidd than they would have with Harris. You can have him.

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    Dampier and Gortat for14 mill ---awesome! By Nov Dirt will be involved in a custody battle and will be more of a mental case. Kidd and Marion un ed for another ring drive--scary. Hopefully, house will resign so that he can glare at Manu from the bench!
    Mavs own your team....pray the Spurs can avoid em come playoff time. Now kindly off

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    Be careful. They might label you a mav hater for telling the truth. All I can say is we better not be done with free agents. Marion isn't the answer. Neither is Gortat. As long as Kidd is our starting point guard, we are in trouble.
    Yeah, Steve Nash was the answer. That's why we could never get past the Spurs with him, he couldn't beat the Spurs in Phoenix, and we suddenly started beating San Antonio when he left. Nash's MVP awards are a joke. I can't believe anybody would cite that as a reason we should've kept him.

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    I hope Orlando gets both. They are a bigger threat to the Lakers than the old Mavs are.
    You're not a Mavs fan. The day you start wishing for other teams to retain players that could help the Mavs, you're not a Mavs fan. Your schtick is more odious than Ghazi's. You suck.

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    You're not a Mavs fan. The day you start wishing for other teams to retain players that could help the Mavs, you're not a Mavs fan. Your schtick is more odious than Ghazi's. You suck.
    I'm just saying Orlando just got to the final and gave the lakers a tough series. All they need is Gortat to strengthen that bench and make another push. Dallas has dinosaur Kidd as their starter. How can you expect to win with that? He will get crucified by other point guards. I wish we still had Harris or Nash. Point guards that could make things happen rather than stand around. Terry does the same thing. Josh Howard has lost some of his speed. Dirk Nowitzki the same story. I know you want to hear the we like our team schtick but it's time to be honest. Overpaying Kidd was a big mistake. Trading Harris for Kidd was a big mistake. This team just doesn't have a good owner/GM.

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    I'm just saying Orlando just got to the final and gave the lakers a tough series. All they need is Gortat to strengthen that bench and make another push. Dallas has dinosaur Kidd as their starter. How can you expect to win with that? He will get crucified by other point guards. I wish we still had Harris or Nash. Point guards that could make things happen rather than stand around. Terry does the same thing. Josh Howard has lost some of his speed. Dirk Nowitzki the same story. I know you want to hear the we like our team schtick but it's time to be honest. Overpaying Kidd was a big mistake. Trading Harris for Kidd was a big mistake. This team just doesn't have a good owner/GM.
    You completely miss the ing point and I think you're doing it on purpose. You stick with your team through thick and thin, even when they make decisions you don't like, and even when they aren't equipped to win a le. No Mavs fan on this board gives Donnie and Mark a pass for the bad decisions that they've made, or for the flaws that the roster has. I have yet to see any Mavs fan state that the recent moves definitely have us leapfrogging the Lakers. I want Gortat on this team because it makes us better, and there's not another realistic option at the 5.

    I'm done interacting with you. You're just a troll and not a very good one at that. No fan of a team actively wishes for them to get worse so some other team can have a better shot at beating the Lakers. You're not a Mavs fan. Being a Mavs fan doesn't mean you have to get out the pom-poms and defend every action the Front Office takes. It simply means you root for them when they play and you don't piss on moves that makes them better. Gortat is an upgrade. I could less of a rat's ass who wins the championship if it's not us. off.

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    Kidd got crucified by Parker in 03. I think a point guard like Deron Williams is exactly what you guys need. If you get a pg that plays some decent defense with similar offensive skillset I think it offers much more improvement than these big name players. However, Deron is not advertised as much as with other guards in his range. Doubt your FO makes a move on anything like that.
    What do you mean "you guys"? You're talking to an Orlando Magic fan. I think Deron Williams is better than Jameer Nelson, but the Magic hardly need an upgrade at PG.

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    You completely miss the ing point and I think you're doing it on purpose. You stick with your team through thick and thin, even when they make decisions you don't like, and even when they aren't equipped to win a le. No Mavs fan on this board gives Donnie and Mark a pass for the bad decisions that they've made, or for the flaws that the roster has. I have yet to see any Mavs fan state that the recent moves definitely have us leapfrogging the Lakers. I want Gortat on this team because it makes us better, and there's not another realistic option at the 5.

    I'm done interacting with you. You're just a troll and not a very good one at that. No fan of a team actively wishes for them to get worse so some other team can have a better shot at beating the Lakers. You're not a Mavs fan. Being a Mavs fan doesn't mean you have to get out the pom-poms and defend every action the Front Office takes. It simply means you root for them when they play and you don't piss on moves that makes them better. Gortat is an upgrade. I could less of a rat's ass who wins the championship if it's not us. off.
    I will never forget that stupid move of trading Harris for dinosaur Kidd. I guess I'm still bitter that a franchise can be so stupid. I find it hard to root for a team I'm so pissed at. And don't you want to see the Lakers lose? I definitely do. Seeing Kobe's mug after winning a championship makes me sick.

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    Ok? Your profile says Mavericks fan.... SO be it.
    No, the guy that you replied to advising him that his team needs an upgrade at PG and that they should go after Deron Williams is a Magic fan. Do you think Jameer Nelson sucks?

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    Devin Harris is a one-trick pony and the Mavs went farther last year with Kidd than they would have with Harris. You can have him.
    I'll gladly keep Harris, better then being stuck with Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson, who were good just couldn't win the finals together. And I think that is how the Mavs are good, but not better then other teams.

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    I'll gladly keep Harris, better then being stuck with Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson, who were good just couldn't win the finals together. And I think that is how the Mavs are good, but not better then other teams.
    Good. We're both happy. Harris is wildly overrated at this point.

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    Okay, maybe Harris isn't wildly overrated. He's always had the ability to take anybody off the dribble and get to the rim, and his midrange jumper is now more consistent. But he doesn't play d anymore because Frank doesn't make him. And if he were a franchise-type player, New Jersey would've won more than 33 games last year. He had Vince and a good big in Lopez and they were still terrible. Not to mention his durability issues throughout his career.

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    You're not a Mavs fan. The day you start wishing for other teams to retain players that could help the Mavs, you're not a Mavs fan. Your schtick is more odious than Ghazi's. You suck.

    I vehemently support the Mavs and get compared to a Devin fanboy/poser who is rooting AGAINST the Mavs?

    Que lastima fin!

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    Be careful. They might label you a mav hater for telling the truth. All I can say is we better not be done with free agents. Marion isn't the answer. Neither is Gortat. As long as Kidd is our starting point guard, we are in trouble.
    Uhhh Derek Fisher just won a le as the starting PG. Obviously the Lakers have more talent but this implication that Kidd starting at PG for a team nullifies their ability to compete for a le or means "trouble" is just re ed.

    Kidd is still a top 10 PG

    J-Ho > Dirk!

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    Uhhh Derek Fisher just won a le as the starting PG. Obviously the Lakers have more talent but this implication that Kidd starting at PG for a team nullifies their ability to compete for a le or means "trouble" is just re ed.

    Kidd is still a top 10 PG

    J-Ho > Dirk!
    What a joke. A top 10 pg? We'll see which point guard scores more on a nightly basis. And Fisher is a solid defensive point guard still. Kobe Bryant is like a point guard as well as he creates for himself and others off the dribble. Kidd will let Parker, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and Billups burn him at will.

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    Kidd is way better than Fisher defensively. And yes, a top 10 point guard.

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    Okay, maybe Harris isn't wildly overrated. He's always had the ability to take anybody off the dribble and get to the rim, and his midrange jumper is now more consistent. But he doesn't play d anymore because Frank doesn't make him. And if he were a franchise-type player, New Jersey would've won more than 33 games last year. He had Vince and a good big in Lopez and they were still terrible. Not to mention his durability issues throughout his career.
    dude, New Jersey was excepted to be last place last year even with VC, they did much better then people thought, with only Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, and Vince Carter. I mean we won about the same amount of games with Kidd, Carter and Jefferson so. Harris was good last year. And I don't care if Harris isn't a franchise-type player, I mean if the Nets can win the finals in a few years it will be great just put player who would work well together and it's a done deal. It's a team game not a one man game. Dirk is a franchise player were has that lead the Mavs? to the finals one time where they lost.

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