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  1. #26
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    WTF are you even a Spurs fan? do you watch the games?
    I say that because of spurs fans. There are quite a few out there that would rather have him than Bryant..
    I'm sorry, call me bias but I will not allow my homerism to blind me.
    Last edited by rayray2k8; 07-15-2009 at 04:06 PM.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    The Spurs must be one of the deepest, best teams of all time if they can lose their "best player" for 10 games and during that stretch go 7-3.

  3. #28
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    The Spurs must be one of the deepest, best teams of all time if they can lose their "best player" for 10 games and during that stretch go 7-3.
    George Hill.
    Anything else?

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    I say put him there because of spurs fans. There are quite a few out there that would rather have him than Bryant..
    I'm sorry, call me bias but I will not allow my homerism to blind me.

    Of course among Spurs fans Manu is overrated, I put Manu on the list because when healthy he's one of the most efficient SG's in basketball, and his defense is VERY underrated.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    George Hill.
    Anything else?

    What's your point?

  6. #31
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    The ? Are you serious? Who do you think ran the offense, Jacque Vaughn???

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    A new category. Underrated by most fans, but overrated in terms of salary received:

    Troy Murphy
    Kirilenko
    Dalembert
    Okafor

  8. #33
    Believe.
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    overrated:

    PG: CPWhistle
    SG: Vince Carter
    SF: Paul Pierce
    PF: Pau Gasol
    C: Tim Duncan

    Underrated:

    PG: Rajon Rondo
    SG: Andre Iguodala
    SF: Caron Butler
    PF: Dirk Nowitzki
    C: Emeka Okafor
    I have to say you are a obvious homer, Dirk is overrated bro, timmy, has won 4 championships you can't ever overrate a guy like that unless you say he is the best ever which i don't believe but he is a winner unlike dirk who can't even win with a team of all stars. I agree otherwise with what you said, just not the obvious hating on the spurs, but what can I say if you ain't got no haters(jealousy) you ain't doin it right.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Duncan is by far my favorite player but seriously, if you don't think Tony Parker is the main man on this team now, you don't know about Spurs ball. DoK I usually agree with you on a lot of subjects but this I have to disagree with. Yes, defensively, Tim Duncan is the Spurs anchor. But Tony Parker is the motor that makes the Spurs' offense go. And he doesn't get NEARLY the credit he deserves. All anyone says is that he is lucky because he plays with Timmy. Well, when Tim and Manu were out late in the season, Tony Parker put the team on his shoulders on dominated.

    On a team like the Kings or other sub .500 teams, Tony could easily average 25 and 7.

  10. #35
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    BTW Dirk has an MVP award. No way he can be underrated.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Most of these lists are stupid. Jamstone and DOK are about the only people who has put any thought into his list with good reason to back them up, and not a bunch of emotion tied into their picks, unlike most people here. Although DOK is hating on Parker a little .

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    BLACK MAMBA & TRU WARIER. j-money24's Avatar
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    UNDERRATED

    PG- Deron Williams
    SG- Ben Gordon
    SF- Danny Granger
    PF- AL Jefferson
    C- Biedrins

    OVERRATED
    PG- Chris Paul
    SG- Joe Johnson
    SF- Paul Pierce
    PF- Kevin Garnett
    C- Andrew Bynum

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    BTW Dirk has an MVP award. No way he can be underrated.
    Rated properly by coaches/players

    but not by fans.

    Of course, most fans are stupid, so its understandable why the best PF in the world can be underrated despite his smorgas bord of accolades.

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    Overrated-

    Mo Williams- he isn't an all-star.
    McGrady- Lots of skills but one of the less effective players I have ever saw.
    Artest- Big heart, small brain. Lot of strength, little talent.
    West- a big man that only shoots jumpers and has two all-star games
    Bynum- 'till now the GOAT of overrated players.

    Underrated-

    Deron Williams- It's a joke that he hasn't been to the all-star game.
    Ginobili- most people look at his stats and think he's just another solid role player. When he is actually a star. His ability to make team mates better unfortunately doesn't translate into the stats sheet, fortunately it does translate into championships.
    Butler- Borderline all-star that doesn't get hyped much.
    Scola- He could easily become a borderline all-star if his team gets him the ball a bit more, specially in pick and roll plays.
    Biedrinis- Before these last playoffs I'd have said Gortat

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    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    Overrated:

    PG- Jameer Nelson
    SG- Vince Carter
    SF- Kirilenko
    PF- Boozer
    C- Duncan

    Underrated:

    PG- Rondo (bball is played on 2 ends and his defense is great)
    SG- Wade (should have been MVP)
    SF- Pierce (played Kobe and Lebron to a standstill allowing his team to outplay theirs to a championship)
    PF- Dirk (bashing him became the cool thing to do, best PF in the league)
    Millsap is another very underrated pf
    C- Okafor

  16. #41
    BLACK MAMBA & TRU WARIER. j-money24's Avatar
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    Overrated-

    Mo Williams- he isn't an all-star.
    McGrady- Lots of skills but one of the less effective players I have ever saw.
    Artest- Big heart, small brain. Lot of strength, little talent.
    West- a big man that only shoots jumpers and has two all-star games
    Bynum- 'till now the GOAT of overrated players.

    Underrated-

    Deron Williams- It's a joke that he hasn't been to the all-star game.
    Ginobili- most people look at his stats and think he's just another solid role player. When he is actually a star. His ability to make team mates better unfortunately doesn't translate into the stats sheet, fortunately it does translate into championships.
    Butler- Borderline all-star that doesn't get hyped much.
    Scola- He could easily become a borderline all-star if his team gets him the ball a bit more, specially in pick and roll plays.
    Biedrinis- Before these last playoffs I'd have said Gortat

    We both agree Deron Williams is the most underrated one out of all and Andrew Bynum the next so coming of Wilt is the most overrated one.

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    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    I'm surprised with some Spurs fans in here. I mean you more than any other fans in the league should know that scoring the most points doesn't make you the better player. Let's have a pick up game, I choose Duncan you choose Parker and let's see how the game goes.

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    I say that because of spurs fans. There are quite a few out there that would rather have him than Bryant..
    I'm sorry, call me bias but I will not allow my homerism to blind me.
    I agree that he is overrated by some Spurs fans but he's underrated by 99% of the NBA fans.

  19. #44
    Do it. Sigz's Avatar
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    Underrated:

    Joe Johnson.

    Very underrated btw...

  20. #45
    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    Hate thread.

  21. #46
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    I'm surprised with some Spurs fans in here. I mean you more than any other fans in the league should know that scoring the most points doesn't make you the better player. Let's have a pick up game, I choose Duncan you choose Parker and let's see how the game goes.
    That's pretty re ed. Whoever got the ball to start off with would win. Tony would blow right by Tim but Tim would just dominate Tony in the paint. I don't necessarily think going 1-on-1 proves , due to the huge size difference.

    And @ all the Mav fans saying Dirk is underrated and Duncan is overrated. Is it like unanimous with you guys? I don't think 1 Spurs fan had Dirk as overrated yet.

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    Underrated:

    Joe Johnson.

    Very underrated btw...
    I was this close to put him on my overrated list. I think he makes like 22 points on 20 shots per game, that's not good. He doesn't have the talent nor the leading ability to be the top guy of a team like he's considered to be.

  23. #48
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    I mean, surely you can't think Duncan is overrated after he put up 40 points on 1 leg in 2006 versus your team. What about the 40 he hung on the Suns in Game 1 last year?

    I don't understand the hate. Seriously. I don't find Dirk to be overrated, so I can't see how any would find Duncan overrated.

  24. #49
    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    It has nothing to do with Dirk. I don't have a secret agenda to prove, I'm not even really much a Dirk fan. I just started feeling bad for him after all the unwarranted hate/criticism. He still remains my least favorite of the old big 3 (Nash/Finley/Dirk)

  25. #50
    BLACK MAMBA & TRU WARIER. j-money24's Avatar
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    I agree that he is overrated by some Spurs fans but he's underrated by 99% of the NBA fans.
    Every player gets overrated by their fans.
    I see some laker fans think that Bynum would be better then Howard in a couple of years, they even had a poll about it at LG, and Bynum was slightly winning, also, some laker fans think Trevor Ariza will be an All-star.

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