The Official don't trade Matt Bonner Thread

[Jose Ole]

Bow down to the Bonn Bonn, AutoBonn, Bonndito or whatever you call GOD!

[Steve-O-Matic]

Thanks for posting this because there were way too many UNofficial 'don't trade Bonner' threads going around.

[bishopospurs]

If he wants real minutes I think he should want a trade, the Spurs have done everything this summer to show they don't want him playing big minutes.

[hater]

get rid of him

[ducks]

it is ok to have players that are not clutch but they should be able to do other things
spurs did not go to tp in the 4 the first couple of years but he got others involved
if you keep booner he should not play in the 4

[Warlord23]

Jefferson PER 15.45
Bonner PER 15.02
Mason PER 11.93

I think that should shed light on a few things.

Bonner 2008-09 regular season PER: 15.0
Bonner 2008-09 playoffs PER: 3.3

/thread

[Warlord23]

Manu Ginobili 2008-2009 playoff PER: 0.00

So?

It doesn't change the fact that Bonner sucked hind vs the Mavs.

[z0sa]

So?

It doesn't change the fact that Bonner sucked hind vs the Mavs.

so did Finley, Mason, Kurt Thomas, and every other spurs player not named Tim or Tony.

what a pointless, pointless post. You're a hater. We get it.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I like Bonner. It's like watching a cute re play basketball. It's adorable.

[Warlord23]

so did Finley, Mason, Kurt Thomas, and every other spurs player not named Tim or Tony.

what a pointless, pointless post. You're a hater. We get it.

Notice how I just pointed out a PER stat in response to a post that had PER stats.

Notice how I didn't say whether I wanted Bonner traded or not.

Notice how you just jumped to conclusions.

[z0sa]

Notice how I just pointed out a PER stat in response to a post that had PER stats.

Notice how I didn't say whether I wanted Bonner traded or not.

Notice how you just jumped to conclusions.

i didn't oncesoever.

your /thread comment made it all too clear what your conclusion is.

i love how these bonner threads get filled with losers who simply MUST fill it with hateful bull . There's plenty of other places to stroke your ego and make yourself feel good.

[Warlord23]

If you want to play the blame game... you can put that on the shoulders of anyone not named Duncan or Parker. So I don't put much into the playoffs last year. Everyone was basically.

Bonner, Mason and Finley shouldn't have been starting and playing major minutes. Thankfully, they won't this year.

The point I was making is that Bonner's regular season PER has little bearing on how the Spurs finished their season.

He's a complementary piece with a limited but unique skillset. I don't think his presence or absence will have any material impact on our le chances.

[antgomez2009]

i can back this thread

last year we asked players to do TOO much... Bonner and Mason were put into roles they never should have been... Mason should have been the 4th scoring option at best and was instead made into the 3rd when Manu went down

same thing with Bonner... He should have been playing 20 minutes a night coming off the bench and used in the Horry esque role of big man who can spread the floor, obviously he doesn't have anywhere near the D of Horry, but you get the point... Instead he was made into the Starting Center on a 50 win team

Bonner is no starting Center, but one of 4 big men in the rotation... I LIKE THAT

Co-sign- + 2

Roger mason and Bonner, IMO also are at the very best 4th, fifth or sixth Options! Bonner is no where near a starting Center!

[Warlord23]

i didn't oncesoever.

your /thread comment made it all too clear what your conclusion is.

My conclusion is that Bonner is not a significant enough player to have a "don't trade" thread about. I don't give a whether they trade him or keep him since he's a role player and not a centerpiece.

As for the trade vs no trade argument:
If they trade him and get something of value, they should.
If they don't get better value in return, they shouldn't.

This applies to everyone on the team except TD, who's earned the right to retire a Spur.

[z0sa]

My conclusion is that Bonner is not a significant enough player to have a "don't trade" thread about. I don't give a whether they trade him or keep him since he's a role player and not a centerpiece.

And where does the snide remark and ego stroking fit in?
btw, there are no other bonner threads. Let me repeat that the losers must fill Bonner threads up with hateful bull . If he didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have posted his per numbers considering the cir stances of the playoffs.

As for the trade vs no trade argument:
If they trade him and get something of value, they should.
If they don't get better value in return, they shouldn't.

WOW you're a ing genius. Good take about Bonner's situation there, this thread couldn't have done without you so far

This applies to everyone on the team except TD, who's earned the right to retire a Spur.

Another take I've never heard before. You're really on a roll.

Instead of complaining in Bonner threads, just ignore them since you have no problem with him.

[Warlord23]

And where does the snide remark and ego stroking fit in?



WOW you're a ing genius. Good take about Bonner's situation there, this thread couldn't have done without you so far



Another take I've never heard before. You're really on a roll.

Hey, if you have a crush on the red-head you need to have thicker skin. My "snide remark" about Bonner is one of the relatively polite comments you'll find on ST regarding Matt.

Exactly. The take is ing obvious. As it should have been to you and your Bonner-loving club before creating a lame "don't trade Bonner" thread. If the right deal comes along, you trade him. Or are you telling me that there is no player in the entire league you'd trade Bonner for?

How the does a "don't trade Bonner" thread make sense in the first place?

[z0sa]

Hey, if you have a crush on the red-head you need to have thicker skin. My "snide remark" about Bonner is one of the relatively polite comments you'll find on ST regarding Matt.

There is no such thing as a relatively polite insult.

Exactly. The take is ing obvious. As it should have been to you and your Bonner-loving club before creating a lame "don't trade Bonner" thread. If the right deal comes along, you trade him. Or are you telling me that there is no player in the entire league you'd trade Bonner for?

Then what the are you doing in this thread, oh smart one?

How the does a "don't trade Bonner" thread make sense in the first place?

Because we don't want Bonner traded? We don't think trading away our shooting big, who knows the system well, makes few mistakes in the offense or defense, and hits the 3 at a top10 rate is a great idea. We think other options should be explored beforehand.

God forbid some believe that Bonner shouldn't be traded whatsoever, unless part of another RJ type deal.
Indeed, grow some tolerance for others' opinions.

[Marcus Bryant]

WTF is this?

[z0sa]

I don't think anyone is suggesting we shouldn't trade him if the right deal is on the table. It isn't that black and white. I think what some people in this thread are tired of, is the nonsensical hating on Bonner. He played nothing short of great last season.

for real. He was key in our regular season's success. The playoffs were failure for everyone, singling out Bonner is a move.

[phxspurfan]

I say if we can't make a move for a defensive wing, we keep him, use him in the beginning of the season when the new bigs are getting acclimated. Then near the deadline, after everyone knows the system he can play a bit role and be the human victory cigar come playoff time. Or trade him at the deadline if a good deal comes around (possible since teams will be trading this year).

[Warlord23]

Then what the are you doing in this thread, oh smart one?

Calling out stupid posts from Bonner-lovers.

Because we don't want Bonner traded? We don't think trading away our shooting big, who knows the system well, makes few mistakes in the offense or defense, and hits the 3 at a top10 rate is a great idea. We think other options should be explored beforehand.

God forbid some believe that Bonner shouldn't be traded whatsoever, unless part of another RJ type deal.
Indeed, grow some tolerance for others' opinions.

Over the past 2 decades, there are only two cases of 3-point-shooting bigs being a key component of a championship team: Robert Horry and Antoine Walker. But Horry was physically tough, a smart defender, and a clutch player to boot. You can't ascribe any of those additional qualities to Bonner. Walker actually shot a mediocre 32% from the arc in the Heat's 2006 playoff run; it was Posey and Haslem who played key roles supporting Wade/Shaq. Mehmet Okur was part of the 2004 Piston team but played a minor role behind the Wallaces, Prince and Corliss Williamson.

List of complementary big men on championship teams since 1999:

Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Leon Powe, PJ Brown, Kendrick Perkins, Fabricio Oberto, Robert Horry, Udonis Haslem, Antoine Walker, Rasho Nesterovic, Nazr Mohammed, Ben Wallace, Corliss Williamson, David Robinson, Malik Rose, Samaki Walker, Horace Grant, A.C. Green.

Apart from Horry and Walker (and Memo in a reduced role), the 3 point shooting bigman has not been a feature of NBA le teams. Even then the 3 point shooting big needs to have a well-rounded game.

Horry was a unique player. Bonner sharing one aspect of his and lacking several others doesn't put him in the same breath. Bigs that provide a good mix of rebounding, defense and some form of scoring (posting up or mid range shooting) are the key.

I don't see Bonner fitting into that mould.

[adrianini]

i can back this thread

last year we asked players to do TOO much... Bonner and Mason were put into roles they never should have been... Mason should have been the 4th scoring option at best and was instead made into the 3rd when Manu went down

same thing with Bonner... He should have been playing 20 minutes a night coming off the bench and used in the Horry esque role of big man who can spread the floor, obviously he doesn't have anywhere near the D of Horry, but you get the point... Instead he was made into the Starting Center on a 50 win team

Bonner is no starting Center, but one of 4 big men in the rotation... I LIKE THAT

I back this thread, too! Sure, we're suddenly blessed with all these bigs.
Give Bonner the same chance as anyone else. Now that there are more bigs, Bonner won't be asked to do things he's not suited for. Let Pop figure it out in training camp, and put people where HE sees fit.

[spursfan1000]

I wouldent mind keeping Bonner for him to play around 10 minutes a game and also for blowout wins, like his role was a year ago.

[bus driver]

:wgaf:

if he stays, :wgaf:
if he leaves, :wgaf:

[George Gervin's Afro]

Matt hasn't succeeded in what the Spurs had intended for him. His time is up with the Spurs..ala Francisco Elson..