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    So you don't expect to receive state services for the taxes you pay??? Why do you pay taxes in the first place?
    Why don't you take justice in your own hands, and see how that works out for you?
    No, your assessment assumes that there will be en equal reimbursement to the community by taxes paid. I'm talking about federal tax rates, and you bring up the non sequitur of of community funding.

    Please pay attention.

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    I like to also, but because of the nature of his past posts, I think being a business owner, and driving a nice Mercedes is in his dreams, and not reality.

    Yes Clam, I could be wrong, and I apologize if I am. I just don't buy it.
    you seem to think that big business runs on profit as opposed to having a factor to answer to.

    bush had to bail it out or face catastrophic collapse.

    still, the banks aren't doing enough. i'm not sure what obama can do about that. he needs to lean on them with some heavy threats.

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    Sure. Better funded police, lower crime, better community, more appeal to businesses. Look no further than 42nd street in New York City for a working example.
    It's ONE scenario where it would actually be beneficial for the business owner.
    That said, I don't claim it applies to EVERY scenario, but it certainly satisfies the OP's question.

    hmmm. so businesses don't last in bad neighborhoods?

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    you seem to think that big business runs on profit as opposed to having a factor to answer to.
    No, I just don't understand how you can support higher taxes under the manner that the feds abuse the money they spend.
    bush had to bail it out or face catastrophic collapse.
    We disagree.
    still, the banks aren't doing enough. i'm not sure what obama can do about that. he needs to lean on them with some heavy threats.
    He cannot do when he rewards bad behavior. He's making it worse, not better.

    What can we do? OK, I'll go for bailout money. But not to reward losing business tactics. Use it to guarantee loans with banks who did not fall on their asses.

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    hmmm. so businesses don't last in bad neighborhoods?
    LOL...

    Go figure. Is that another reason why liberals are not tough on crime?

    I swear, just about everything I see, about liberal ideals, are a means to the destruction of this nation.

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    LOL...

    Conservatives are for bad neighborhoods. Go figure.

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    LOL...

    Conservatives are for bad neighborhoods. Go figure.
    ???

    How do you extrapolate that? Maxwell, you're twisted.

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    No, I just don't understand how you can support higher taxes under the manner that the feds abuse the money they spend.
    i say you give them some time to stabilize this crisis. you guys owe them that.

    We disagree.
    because you can't fathom the magnitude of what true financial collapse they averted.

    He cannot do when he rewards bad behavior. He's making it worse, not better.
    bush and obama didn't reward, they rescued. your ass included. you just can't see it.

    What can we do? OK, I'll go for bailout money. But not to reward losing business tactics. Use it to guarantee loans with banks who did not fall on their asses.
    don't begin to think it's over. the weak will get slaughtered.

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    ???

    How do you extrapolate that? Maxwell, you're twisted.
    Well, you aren't for making neighborhoods better, so you are for keeping them bad.

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    Well, you aren't for making neighborhoods better, so you are for keeping them bad.
    Non sequitur.

    We are discussing federal spending. Not local spending.

    Buy a clue please Maxwell.

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    chump, still putting words in people's mouths.

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    chump, still putting words in people's mouths.
    That should be his slogan.

    "ChumpDumper, building strawmen and putting words in peoples' mouths since 1997." (Start date based on assumed age of 12)

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    Non sequitur.

    We are discussing federal spending. Not local spending.

    Buy a clue please Maxwell.
    Sorry, you followed him into the police funding discussion. And there have definitely been federal funds spent on hiring new local police.

    chump, still putting words in people's mouths.
    Nah, just showing how people post stupid without realizing what it means.

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    That should be his slogan.

    "ChumpDumper, building strawmen and putting words in peoples' mouths since 1997." (Start date based on assumed age of 12)
    Yoni, lying his entire life to make up for his lower than average intelligence.

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    Nah, just showing how people post stupid without realizing what it means.


    only you realize what you mean.
    i'd like for you to point out who said "conservatives are for bad neighborhoods".

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    only you realize what you mean.
    i'd like for you to point out who said "conservatives are for bad neighborhoods".
    Wild Cobra.

    And you think businesses can't be hurt by bad neighborhoods.

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    i'd like for you to point out who said "conservatives are for bad neighborhoods".
    i know that's hard for you to understand being that you never have one, but please quote who said that.

    And you think businesses can't be hurt by bad neighborhoods.
    did i say i thought that? i'm asking el nono if he thinks that. i'm trying to see where he's coming from with one of his statements. geez, you're dumb.


    to quote jeffrey lebowski:
    "are you employed, sir?"

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    i know that's hard for you to understand being that you never have one, but please quote who said that.
    I know it's hard for you to read.


    did i say i thought that? i'm asking el nono if he thinks that. i'm trying to see where he's coming from with one of his statements. geez, you're dumb. are you employed?
    Yes, I am employed. Thank you for your continued interest in my life.

    Do you personally believe that bad neighborhoods could hurt businesses?

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    Yoni, lying his entire life to make up for his lower than average intelligence.
    Nah, doesn't work...lacks veracity.

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    I know it's hard for you to read.


    Yes, I am employed. Thank you for your continued interest in my life.

    Do you personally believe that bad neighborhoods could hurt businesses?
    on behalf of planet earth, please don't breed.

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    Nah, doesn't work...lacks veracity.
    You lie and you aren't intelligent.

    It works.

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    on behalf of planet earth, please don't breed.
    Thank you for your continued interest in my personal life.

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    No, your assessment assumes that there will be en equal reimbursement to the community by taxes paid.
    I didn't claim such a thing. However, I don't deny that part of my taxes do fund local law enforcement. If there was a proposition to raise taxes to fund them better, then I might me inclined to support it. I don't think my proposition is irrational at all.

    I'm talking about federal tax rates, and you bring up the non sequitur of of community funding.

    Please pay attention.
    LOL, it wasn't non sequitur when you called me a communist because I expect to receive the services I pay taxes for.
    It also wasn't non sequitur when you came up with the re ed proposition that I directly fund the police budget out of pocket and got called out for it.

    But NOW it's a non sequitur?

    Your question as presented did not discriminate between state and federal taxes. Maybe you just need to pay more attention before posting your generic questions.

    And FWIW, my local police force is Fort Monmouth Police, which not surprisingly is federally funded...

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    hmmm. so businesses don't last in bad neighborhoods?
    Depends on the nature of the business.

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    And FWIW, my local police force is Fort Monmouth Police, which not surprisingly is federally funded...
    I'd be willing to bet that some cops in the area were hired with federal grant money.

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