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Well, with every Hurrican/Monsoon/large rain or snowfall - it seems somebody brings up climate change, or global warming.
for Tat.
Well, it does now.
It is becoming more and more apparent that "Global Warming" isn't going to work - so it is morphing into "Climate Change" - more ambiguous/harder to disprove.
Well, with every Hurrican/Monsoon/large rain or snowfall - it seems somebody brings up climate change, or global warming.
for Tat.
What is it?
I'll wait to respond until you realize what CO2 really is...
And every time there's a cooler than average day ANYWHERE morons like DarrinS bring up how "global warming" is bull . It's all getting really old.
And they are equally foolish.
It's a gas man.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...global+warming
Oh look, a Global Warming thread
Which is why there are 100 of these threads every year.
I don't deny that CO2 concentrations have increased -- up to a whopping 383 parts per million or 0.0383% (gasp!).
What I didn't read on that page, was ONE piece of objective evidence that shows how much humans have contributed to the 0.74 degree Celcius increase over the past century.
Keep looking.
Strangely enough, calling me a moron won't change the last 10 years of temperature and CO2 measurements.
BTW, your post about pollution on the first page of this thread is quite brilliant and very relevant to the OP.
If you don't see how it is then you really are a moron.
Go research what a catalytic converter does and then we can discuss the difference between pollution and a naturally occuring trace gas that plants need for photosynthesis.
I'll give props to WC, he is pretty well versed in climate change as far as actual science goes. Everyone else just parrots the party line with no actual debate or data or anything.
Either way, global warming at this point is a political platform and a way to hamper the economy, nothing more. Any climate change, if true, will change the temperature for hundreds of years before reversing, even if we stopped all forms of human contribution. Climate change, real or imagined, would occur anyways as long as countries like China get a free pass under the lopsided kyoto protocol to throw out as much crap in the air as they want.
People trash the U.S. for not signing that crappy treaty, but we have increased our carbon emissions by 20% in the same time China has increased theirs 150%. Funny thing is that China ratified the treaty.
Unless people advocate invading other nations in the name of the environment, pollution is going to get in the atmosphere no matter what. The entire argument is nothing but a sham to gain votes and government subsidies towards certain industry, depending on who lobbys more.
Except we aren't moore-ons like those who believe in anthropogenic global warming. It's just fun to rub in peoples faces that they don't know what their lemming minds are repeating from their agenda driven masters.
Learn about the sciences involved and stop looking like an idiot.
Thank-You. I may differ on opinions than others on the various subjects we discuss, but science is fact based. There is very little that can be interpreted wrong if you actually look at the facts.
I think politicians are using it to control us. Funny how government never gets smaller. Just bigger, one program at a time.
I agree. I will also say I am convinced that China is the only primary source of any measurable anthropogenic warming occurring. They don;t use clean coal burning technology, and the soot carried by the winds deposit on the northern ice. The sun, then heats it up rather than reflecting off the ice, causing rapid melting of the ice.
But China is not required to clean up their act in the treaty!
Agreed.
Can you find me one scientific article that claims global "warming" doesn't exist that isn't backed by/funded by oil companies or any large donor who has an interest in saying global "warming" doesn't exist?
hilarious coming from the guy who basically made "I don't remember where I read it..." his own on this forum.Learn about the sciences involved and stop looking like an idiot.
i love internet science.
So how's the current trend in San Antonio?
It's a commie plot and I mean that. The three biggest power generation companies in China, pollute more than all companies and industry in Great Britain, combined.
We get chinese air pollution on the west coast if the weather is right. Do they get ours ?
Nope.
They damn near had to cancel the track and field in the last olympics till the Chinese gov shut down and I mean SHUT DOWN manufacturing plants, travel by car, bus, air...the whole shabang....3 months before the games started, just to avoid the embarrassment and let the 'games begin'.
The Soviet Union fell, but communism didn't die. It was just rebranded and is working full force in the green movement.
What will all the global warming followers say when NYC isn't under water in 50 years? Will they admit they were wrong or at least that the situation was deeply exaggerated? I think global warming exists but not to the degree that Al Gore preaches. I've always thought it was funny how Al Gore uses worst case scenarios and end of the world scenarios when it comes to global warming. How the does he know that it's going to be like Waterworld in 50 to 100 years? People in the 1950s thought life in the 2000s was going to be flying cars and and transporters. How did that turn out?
Hey, whatever we can make work at the time. Right braaaaah?
He was basing his predictions on statistics. Do you know what "trends" are? I have a feeling you don't based on your little flying car analogy.
The internet: where anyone is an expert. I mean, they have a graph, for God's sake!
Sure, I can find some. What's the point. If you don't understand the science in the article, you will simply blow it off.Do you remember the source of all the things you learn? Stop being silly please.
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