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Lol dumbass who thinks that same number of points on much improved FG% improved.
Oh and way to forget to argue against Kobe helping Ariza become better
yes, yes and YES, it would be idiotic top think otherwise
nah, he does'nt anymore. so this is a good excuse if the lakers dont repeat
If Shaq didn't provide foundation scoring for those 3 quarters every game, the Lakers wouldn't have been as compe ive in those games. Recognize. They needed each other. Same with Wade. If it was just Wade & Zo, who knows, then maybe Dallas fans can actually point to their ring finger.
Lol dumbass who thinks that same number of points on much improved FG% improved.
Oh and way to forget to argue against Kobe helping Ariza become better
Oh and Dwight Howard's supporting cast consists of 3 All-Stars and solid role players such as Michael Pietrus, and Gortat.
Kobe's consists of 1 All-Star, and Good Players such as Odom and Artest, and trash like Sasha, and Morrison
Dwight has the best supporting cast
You might have a point about Orlando, but Dwight cannot lead a team to a championship. The man has no post moves and is a little overated as a defender. Jameer was half healthy in the Finals (Alston should have played instead).
BTW Kobe's teammates are much better than Dwight's. The Lakers can and should win around 55 games without Kobe (as was the case with the 1993-94 Bulls) in a regular season.
Kobe's nurturing has proven out be a double-edged sword. We've thrived and we've suffered for the sins of the father. I'm sure that roller coaster ride will continue unabated.
To be fair Kobe has 2 All-Stars now with Artest joining. Morrison doesn't even count cause he probably won't even play, same with Sasha.
It'll probably be Farmar, Brown, Walton and Lamar as the four off the bench. PJ will probably play Sasha or Morrison at the start of the year but if they both still suck massive ass I hope he just starts playing Brown at the 2.
Not anymore.
In my opinion this all goes back to the Gasol trade.
Without that gift we would have a fantastic West race next year, with 3-4 teams trully capable of emerging victorous. It would of been a fun to watch, but watching one team get stacked via advantages not available to everyone else is boring and harbors resentment to the league imo. Heck, maybe even the Grizzlies would be up there as a legit playoff team.
LO is a bad example, he has played the same since he came in as a rookie until now, regardless of the environment. Lanquished? Hardly. He just isn't cut to be a 2nd option no matter what team he's on.
When you look at role players, a lot of them played their best with Kobe.
Smush Parker couldn't play in this league but started and did well for the 2 seasons he played next to Kobe.
Brian Cook rode pine everywhere but started next to Kobe.
Derek Fisher, got paid in GS and Utah but didn't get back to shooting well to back in LA.
Magic (and most great PGs) make teammates better by giving them more opportunities in scoring positions. Kobe makes teammates better like great big men do - draw so much attention to themselves that it gives their teammates that extra space needed.
My God, Cleva, Smush Parker was an unmitigated disaster. He is not a professional basketball player. I give Kobe a pass on that one.
Kobe had no positive impact on Cook. He was a bum comin' & goin'.
Kobe hasn't taken Walton anywhere. He's still standin' around, wringin' his hands, sneaking a look at Bryant every time he s up.
Gasol just transferred his game to Los Angeles. The key is we got something for nothing and compounded it by getting rid of nothing (Brown).
Gasol has toughened up some, but, that is more by coaching a en than anything Kobe has ins uted.
That's just a combination of sour grapes & the Mavs handing you your ass for close order inspection.
Get your together, Lars, and stop whining, you gd weak , you.
Who do you think would win a 7 games playoff series out of this two teams?
TEAM A
Tony Parker-Manu Ginobili-Richard Jefferson-Dejuan Blair-Antonio McDyess
TEAM B
Derek Fisher-Ron Artest-Lamar Odom-Pau Gasol-Andrew Bynum
I think TEAM A would win easily, and I don't wanted to talk about the subs, 'cause the difference would be bigger.
That "easily" is what ended up with the Mavs bustin' off a piece of their Kit Kat Bar in your lunchbucket.
Kobe definitely made his teammates better, there is no arguing.
If you don't get on his good side, he will get you traded like O'Neal, or he would go public about his desire to get you traded, like Bynum. Speaking of which, just looked at how much Bynum improved right after those trade demands. I would work my ass off to please the Black Mamba if I want a job with the Lakers.
Don't get your caustic on this morning, amb. It's Friday, the Lakers are NBA Champions, and hey, you got that clean clock, courtesy of the Mavs.
tee, hee.
Kobe possesses a rapist wit.
He does pack a mean hemorroid.
put Kobe on the Grizzlies and you don't think his FG% would decrease. please
Team A would have an advantage out on the perimeter, but Team B would own the paint, control the glass at both ends, and would probably win more times than not. Honestly.
That's like saying the 2004-06 Miami Heat was Shaq's team.
It's not KG's team. He's extremely important to their success, and he's the piece that can put them over the top, but it's Paul Pierce's team. You could ask KG and he would say that. Defensive intensity is good and important. You don't call the Spurs Tim Duncan's team because of defensive intensity. You call it Duncan's team because the ball still goes through him when it counts. And, now that it also goes through Parker, people question whether it's Duncan's or Parker's team now. Not because of defensive intensity, but because of the offense.
Boston is Paul Pierce's team. I don't even think there's much debate over that fact.
If you think about it, the Lakers talent is not spectacular but it's widespread.
You have Pau/Odom/Bynum/Artest/Fisher...none of whom are the best at their position. But they're all within Top15. I think the 2-3 guys on the Celtics/Cavs/Spurs are better than the Laker 2-3 guys, but when you compare to 10 players, that's when the Lakers strength starts to show.
The Lakers, like last year, are a very deep team which can withstand long-term injuries to everybody except Kobe. And that's why they win.
If you take Fisher out of the picture, the others are arguably all Top 5 at their position.
No they're not, except for Gasol.
I go with the Celtics, just because I think their bench is a tad deeper.
Oh yeah, I didn't realized Mavs had the Spurs out of the playoffs 4-1 if you didn't tell me.
Come to think of it, maybe a better le to the thread should be "Does Gasol possess the best supporting cast in the league?"
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