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I'm not saying he hasn't been clutch at times and hit timely shots -- quite simply he hasn't been the shooter even you expected.
Did you not understand "poor shooter on the road overall this season" or what?
Just accept it. I have.
I'm not saying he hasn't been clutch at times and hit timely shots -- quite simply he hasn't been the shooter even you expected.
IF he gets to play enough minutes in the clutch his eventual statline may look pretty good...including shooting PCT...all he has to do is make 3 shots in a row and he is a 50% shooter...I contend that he doesn't get as many opportunities on the road because Pop tends to go with defense over offense on the road. I think Pop is right to focus on D...but the truth is that Barry doesn't seem to get on the court as much in the deciding moments of road games...the Phoenix game is the major exception.
Isn't it kind of odd that Barry is considered a defensive liablitiy...but we made a huge comeback with Barry playing down the stretch...on the best offensive team in the NBA?
Isn't it kind of odd that Barry is considered a defensive liablitiy...but we made a huge comeback with Barry playing down the stretch...on the best offensive team in the NBA?
wow against a team that plays worse d then dallas now
A few weeks ago when Barry was shooting 340% I posted a stat that showed he was 13 3 pointers away from being a 40% shooter...13 3 pointers...over an @ 68 game period..
Yeah...but they are also a team you would think defense would be at a premium against...
And I'll post a stat saying he's shot 20% from the floor on the road the past month playing over 25mpg.A few weeks ago when Barry was shooting 340% I posted a stat that showed he was 13 3 pointers away from being a 40% shooter...13 3 pointers...over an @ 68 game period..
I appreciate the other things he does, but this is impossible to spin.
And I'll post that he had two scoreless games that are the majority of that poor shooting and that it was also on the road when he first started stepping up....
He's shot poorly at home and he's had big games on the road...it's that the heart of his slump came during a road trip.
As as we speak...If Barry had made an additional 10 3 pointers through the same number of attempts as he has right now...he'd be shooting 40%...
10 3 pointers, after 75 games played....
1-5And I'll post that he had two scoreless games that are the majority of that poor shooting and that it was also on the road when he first started stepping up....
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Which one is the majority?I'd settle for over .18 on the road the past month.10 3 pointers, after 75 games played....
You're damned right, Whott! We Spurs fans just jump all over the insconsistencies, while at the same time rewarding them if they go in our favor.
Hey, you guys who are not out there on the floor going up against another team in the real, physical sense of the word: Step back and take a real hard look at yourselves. Ask yourselves if you could do whatever you're expecting of these players?
We are so good at calling the shots when we don't have to call the shots. , I can sit back here in the comfort of my living room, beer in hand, and peel the skin off the players who disappoint me - but I'm not the one on the court.
It's not even a second-guess, or premonition when the game starts. In the immortal words of Popeye-the-Sailorman, applying his words globally - "We is what we is!"
As a player in the true sense - high school and college - I would sometimes wake up on a game morning with the belief that I would have a vertical leap that would defy the gods; I would run out on that court and swat down every single one of our opponents' attempts. Well, this was in my dreams and I can't say that I wasn't fired up and that it didn't work for awhile, but wishing and hoping and trying and dreaming may be the stuff of which dreams are made, but reality sucks sometimes.
I was a center - a position I didn't want to play. I considered myself a wily playmaker who shouldn't have been trapped in the center position. Maybe some of you have had the same thing happen to you. I was definitely a point guard, but I was the tallest member of the team and we were cursed with the worst coach on the face of the earth - aahh, you know what I'm talking about...
Well, anyway, I think that a whole lot of us just layer our own silly past references onto the Spurs. I watch the games, hoping that Rasho will be the center I wasn't. Why should he be what I wasn't? And if he fails to be what I envisioned I could be, why shouldn't I blame him in some way?
That's just totally nuts! What if the Spurs decided to field a team composed of these people on this site? Could we, honestly, take the Spurs to the NBA championship? Are we only whiners and complainers, after all?
Much love to you all,
Sallie
You consider that 4-10 to be bad don't you?
Take out the two scoreless games and he is probably shooting 35%...
If you look...he's only shot @20% or lower in 3 games...he's shot 40% in two games...so no he doesn't just shoot poorly on the road...
Notice that 4-10 he missed more shots than he did last night...so again I say...if he gets more shots in the clutch his PCT might end up being a lot better...the times he has been given that opportunity seem to back that thought up.
Don't you have an injury to fake so you won't have to drop the le or something?
Oh and Benoit>Michaels
Why would I take them out?Take out the two scoreless games and he is probably shooting 35%...
Charity?Setting the bar that low speaks for itself.If you look...he's only shot @20% or lower in 3 games.Overall this season, the difference between his shooting at home and on the road is astonishing.so no he doesn't just shoot poorly on the road...
Home FG%: .474 in 213 shots
Away FG%: .367 in 215 shots
Home 3PT%: .417 in 127 shots
Away 3PT%: .302 in 139 shots
Home shots/game: 5.46
Away shots/game: 5.81
Home 3PT shots/game: 3.26
Away 3PT shots/game: 3.76
Doesn't seem to be a matter of opportunity.
Put your money where your mouth is, whottty. I don't see your bet on vBookie for tonight yet.
That's not entirely true Chump...Think about what's happened to our team over the past month...Duncan, Manu and Devin Brown have all been injured...and Barry is the guy that's been our bench as well as a replacement starter(witout Duncan) like he is today...
So yes I'll admit he's been getting more minutes on the road lately...but on the season as a whole he hasn't...it's just been recently due to all the injuries.
And I'll also point out that when he finally being given those opportunities it's by default and the team isn't exactly at maximum strength....and there haven't been many clutch opportunities in these blowouts.
I am a vbookie loser this season and I dont' want to jinx Barry...
Which part? The stats?That's not entirely true Chump.I might go along with that if not for the fact he's taking fewer shots per game on the road while his minutes have increased due to the injuries. That's very odd.Think about what's happened to our team over the past month...Duncan, Manu and Devin Brown have all been injured...and Barry is the guy that's been our bench as well as a replacement starter(witout Duncan) like he is today...So yes I'll admit he's been getting more minutes on the road lately...but on the season as a whole he hasn't...it's just been recently due to all the injuries.
Yes, in this case the stats. I already told you that I'll let you know when the stats are relevant.
Link? I show him taking more shots on the road....I might go along with that if not for the fact he's taking fewer shots per game on the road while his minutes have increased. That's very odd.
I'll also point out that every player on our team shoot worse on the road except for Rasho....
Yes, 11 percentage points mean nothing, expecially when the sample sizes are nearly identical.Yes, in this case the stats. I already told you that I'll let you know when the stats are relevant.Add them up from the last month.I show him taking more shots on the road....
ChumpDumper - I just don't frankly, understand your post. It appears that you are attempting to pigeon-hole someone as a poor shooter on the road, but is (what, I don't know) at home.
I don't know whether or not you're a supporter of the Spurs, and quite frankly it doesn't matter. Whether or not you stand behind the Spurs 100%, or prefer to probe and prod their performances, this is not a terrible stance to take. I do this myself, but not so hatefully, blaming one player above another as the cause for a loss.
Get out there yourself and run the court. All of those things you envision as being possible may slap you in the face. All of us street players, high school/college players, expect so much of the guys who have made it and we're always right in there second-guessing them, aren't we?
Reality Check! You are not Brent Barry, nor are you Manu Ginobilli, nor are you Tony Parker - and I could name every other member of the Spurs team and you are not them, either. I'd love to think that I could just step into their uniforms and shoes and turn the world on its ear.
Ain't gonna happen, partner!
Complain, rant, rave! You can do that, but you can't put on a Spurs uniform, take the floor and totally dessimate the opposing team. I wish you could, but you can't...
I love you anyway...
Back atcha, slick.I just don't frankly, understand your post.Barry pigeon-holed himself in this case. It's true for all the Spurs guards to an extent, just moreso with Barry.It appears that you are attempting to pigeon-hole someone as a poor shooter on the road, but is (what, I don't know) at home.
11PCT points really don't mean much....add it up and I bet the difference will be about 3 or 4 made shots.
How many road games in the past month has Barry lead the team in scoring? Off the bench no less?Add them up from the last month.
I know he's done it at least twice...so if he's shooting less then what does that say about everyone else on the team?
Maybe we aren't getting as many posessions because the third best rebounder in the NBA is on the IR...
So if Tim Duncan shot 38% on the road all season, you would think that insignificant. Understood.11PCT points really don't mean much.
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