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Once upon a time this season, Beno was a decent defender. I just think he needs to get his head back into the game.
Pop knows this and will probably try to give him a little more time down the stretch.
But you can also carry Barry who is taller and can also play the point. Beno is too slow to keep up with any point guard, so what does it matter if he has height?
Height means absolutely jack when you're behind the man you're supposed be in front of.
Once upon a time this season, Beno was a decent defender. I just think he needs to get his head back into the game.
Pop knows this and will probably try to give him a little more time down the stretch.
I agree. But I still think Beno is the better overall player.wilks atleast plays d beno does not
Wilks has just sucked less than Beno.
Speedy > Hart > Beno to date.
So far the Spurs haven't shown they have they've solved back-up PG spot. God thing Parker's building up his endurance for the playffs in all these double OT games.
Do some of you think Beno should be or will be left off the playoff roster?
I don't know who should be on the PO roster. Last night, we discussed that a possible matchup with Denver might predicate having Wilks on the roster.
There are too many close battles right now to call it. 5 more games left in the season, and the coaching staff are going all of them to decide who is on and who is off. I'm rooting for Beno to pull his head out of his ass, because I love his court vision. I generaly think he's capable of running the offense better than Wilks, but I'm not sure he will play to his potential.
He keeps throwing the ball away and has lost some confidence in his shot, and lately he has been exploited by the other teams offense. I think he will be fine, he just needs to work his way out of it, but it tough at this level when your coach decides it's one mistake and your out. I notice Pop doesn't scream at Beno like he did Tony or grab him or pull him aside like the angry dad, that tough love he gave Tony so maybe Pop doesn't think that Beno isn't as mentally strong as TP. I agree with Whott, guys have a way of excelling when no one is paying attention to them, but once they get your number in this league, you need to toughen up, and work harder cause the players and coaches won't let up, everybodys trying to survive in this league, if you falter they will keep coming at you until the coaches have no choice but to pull you out and sit you down.
Well, I'm thinking if Devin comes back, we will be seeing Barry play more mins. at the point behind Tony besides his other duties.
Well, once teams saw what he could do, they defended it. Scouting is a in the NBA.
Also, that last point you made about Devin is one I talked about a while back and I think it's really important. If Devin comes back healthy, and I think he will, in an effort to play Barry a regular amount as well I think Pop will definetly give him time at the backup 1. Honestly, I'd rather have Barry running it with Devin in the game. I think that's one of the best ways to use all of the players we have in a very effective manner.
Hopefully Beno does pull through.
Pop and the rest of the coaching staff has a lot to think about.
Antonio Daniels a DUD? Hardly.
He is one of the better backup PG's in the league and has been a valuable piece to Seattle's offense AND defense (despite being poor as a team on that end).
So Manu is a scrub?
I never said he was a scrub. I said if he can't play a full season and start then he should go back home.
I am sick and tired of the Manu bull excuses.
Dude can either play or he can't.
He can't more than he can.
I thought it was Pop that makes the excuses for Manu.I am sick and tired of the Manu bull excuses.
Dude can either play or he can't.
He can't more than he can.
In a way, he is getting a similar treatment to what Parker did three years ago, except that TP responded to Pop's rage by upping his game. Beno seems to shrink at it. It's frustrating that Pop seems from a fan perspective to have one style of coaching--play them when they're on track, scream at them when they suck, and bench their asses when they don't respond.
The bizarre thing is that Beno's defense has become so sucky when earlier in the year he seemed to understand the system and was thriving. To me, everything we saw from him earlier in the season was either 1, a fluke, or 2, he's evidence that Pop's seemingly uniform way of dealing with players regardless of experience or personality is actually slowing his progress.
I don't know. Maybe that's just the way the game goes--you can't reach every guy and form him as you wish. But damn, I wish the coaching staff would have a breakthrough with Beno, because I think he really has the potential to contribute again in a huge way.
Who knows, maybe this whole phase is just Pop's CIA way of getting into Beno's head so that he'll perform as expected in the playoffs.
In the end though, if Pop is just going to keep him in the doghouse until he responds, and he's just going to be a Steve Smith at the end of the bench during the playoffs, then yes, drop him from the playoff roster so that guys who are contributing can continue to do so.
[QUOTE=MannyIsGod]Well, once teams saw what he could do, they defended it. Scouting is a in the NBA.[QUOTE]
Good point.
Last edited by bigbendbruisebrother; 04-11-2005 at 10:17 PM. Reason: fixed quote
Beno is a rookie.
We were discussing on this board, when he was drafted, that he landed in probably the best team to develop into a real NBA player. I still believe this to be true.
I think his early success combined with a 82 game season is catching up with him. He also had a busy summer and IIRC he was talking of being tired around the All Star weekend. I also think that the unusual rotations that Pop ran after the AS threw him out of his rythm. This I believe are the reasons for his current performance.
Now after all this is said I also think he should work through it and get back to being a contributor to this team. At this point we have no other option than to trust Pop and the coaching staff to bring him back for the Playoffs.
I still think he can be a top NBA player as long as he remains concentrated on basketball.
Is Beno's doghouse really so big that all 101 dalmations can fit inside????
I don't think so....
So much talk about him hitting the rookie wall, about this factor or that factor.... to me the issue it is simpler:
Beno plays well with a guy like Duncan on the floor... if he hasn't been as hot lately is because no one in the post is demanding double teams anymore.
Has he lost his confidence lately? Perhaps, but IMO Beno should still be included on the playoff roster.
Last edited by hegamboa; 04-12-2005 at 04:06 PM.
MannyisGod:
Nice post and wise beyond your 25 years IMO (most of time).
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