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    There could be serious "investigative reporting" on every branch of govt and the corruption and waste going on in just about every aspect of it.

    From Dept of Education, SS, welfare, medicaid, Military, Justice, etc...There is waste, corruption, fraud, incompetence at every level and on massive scales. How much of our huge deficits and debt are a result of the lack of accountability the press is supposed to hold the govt...accountable for?

    Instead, we get talking points from the govt, and just about every media outlet broadcasts them. Regurgitating them almost verbatim. Gotten to the point that the exact same sentences can be heard on ABC, NBC, CBS, etc...at the exact same time of day. Limbaugh (like him or hate him) is pretty good at putting "montages" together, where a bunch of "journalists" on differing networks, repeat the exact same phrases and talking points...at the exact same time.

    The govt decided it needed more money, and tobacco companies became its target. Over the next few months, a concerted media barrage went after them, then...voila! Tobacco companies paying billions to govt.

    One example of many, of how lockstep govt and media have become. Instead of being the cons utional "watchdog" of govt abuse...its become the biggest proponent...as long as the govt and media agree on the targets. The Press have become the govt's attack dogs.

    Govt and media should never agree. Media should be just as antagonistic towards the current administration...as it was the last administration...and it's not.

    It should be antagonistic towards EVERY administration. That's its job. If it likes the current administration, it's going to be reluctant to find faults, and more supportive of its merits...as seen by them. Journalists have become activists...becoming journalists because they want to "change things" or "make a difference."

    That's not their job...go into politics if you want to do that. Journalists jobs are to investigate and report, as impartially and accurately as possible. And their #1 job is to keep govt honest...it's why the cons ution specifically mentions the press. Not to support govt. Not just investigate them when they don't like the current crop on in bents. It needs to CONSTANTLY investigate them and keep them honest.

    We've lost that big time.

    The only way to find out anything about govt abuse now...is to go to the "opposing" media these days. You want to find abuse during BUSH years? Go to ABC, CNN, etc...
    You want to find abuse during OBAMA...go to talk radio, and mebbe FOX.

    "Journalism" has taken sides. There is no impartial journalism these days. It's a disgrace, and its roots can be found in Journalism Schools...where "social activism" has become more important than actual "journalism." Journalism is now about changing things, instead of reporting them. Mostly its become anti-capitalism and social change.

    Some would say this is a "noble" goal.

    I say it's not a Journalists goal.

    rant over...

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    There could be serious "investigative reporting" on every branch of govt and the corruption and waste going on in just about every aspect of it.

    From Dept of Education, SS, welfare, medicaid, Military, Justice, etc...There is waste, corruption, fraud, incompetence at every level and on massive scales. How much of our huge deficits and debt are a result of the lack of accountability the press is supposed to hold the govt...accountable for?

    Instead, we get talking points from the govt, and just about every media outlet broadcasts them. Regurgitating them almost verbatim. Gotten to the point that the exact same sentences can be heard on ABC, NBC, CBS, etc...at the exact same time of day. Limbaugh (like him or hate him) is pretty good at putting "montages" together, where a bunch of "journalists" on differing networks, repeat the exact same phrases and talking points...at the exact same time.

    The govt decided it needed more money, and tobacco companies became its target. Over the next few months, a concerted media barrage went after them, then...voila! Tobacco companies paying billions to govt.

    One example of many, of how lockstep govt and media have become. Instead of being the cons utional "watchdog" of govt abuse...its become the biggest proponent...as long as the govt and media agree on the targets. The Press have become the govt's attack dogs.

    Govt and media should never agree. Media should be just as antagonistic towards the current administration...as it was the last administration...and it's not.

    It should be antagonistic towards EVERY administration. That's its job. If it likes the current administration, it's going to be reluctant to find faults, and more supportive of its merits...as seen by them. Journalists have become activists...becoming journalists because they want to "change things" or "make a difference."

    That's not their job...go into politics if you want to do that. Journalists jobs are to investigate and report, as impartially and accurately as possible. And their #1 job is to keep govt honest...it's why the cons ution specifically mentions the press. Not to support govt. Not just investigate them when they don't like the current crop on in bents. It needs to CONSTANTLY investigate them and keep them honest.

    We've lost that big time.

    The only way to find out anything about govt abuse now...is to go to the "opposing" media these days. You want to find abuse during BUSH years? Go to ABC, CNN, etc...
    You want to find abuse during OBAMA...go to talk radio, and mebbe FOX.

    "Journalism" has taken sides. There is no impartial journalism these days. It's a disgrace, and its roots can be found in Journalism Schools...where "social activism" has become more important than actual "journalism." Journalism is now about changing things, instead of reporting them. Mostly its become anti-capitalism and social change.

    Some would say this is a "noble" goal.

    I say it's not a Journalists goal.

    rant over...
    rush limbaugh = captain obvious

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    rush limbaugh = captain obvious
    Quick lesson in Free Markets and Capitalism...

    If the press were doing its job...Limbaugh and others wouldn't have jobs.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Quick lesson in Free Markets and Capitalism...

    If the press were doing its job...Limbaugh and others wouldn't have jobs.
    limbuagh made the comment that the democrats would make the healthcare bill a kennedy bill? how is that the media not doing their job? considering universal healthcare was a staple of kennedy's life it would make sense to name this bill after it's champion passes away? oh wait capt oobvious makes the comment and he's nostradomas now. so please explain how limbaugh is doing the mdeia's job. this should be funny..

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    Journalism has always taken sides in America, since we needed to raise arms against the French and Indian union. During Washington's presidency two sharp political parties came forward and both had plenty of journalists ready to spin the news as they saw fit.

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    The news provided on morning cable shows and primetime cable shows is the most slanted on television depending on what channel you're on. If you want "journalism", try watching some mid-day or mid-night broadcasts...or get BBC World News for a global perspective.

    I absolutely hate how partisan MSNBC and FoxNews have gotten...it's so blatantly transparent and it makes me sick.

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    sons it is all for entertainment ... if you want real news, then I suggest you listen to the Honorable Pastor / Doctor James David Manning. god bless

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    I absolutely hate how partisan MSNBC and FoxNews have gotten...it's so blatantly transparent and it makes me sick.
    Funny...I was saying the exact same thing back in 1980...when I basically quit watching TV news.

    But it was about ABC, CBS, NBC, and NPR

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    Neither, they're entertainers. Also, Zosa just knocked you the out. The thread le is pretty ing funny when you consider the question being asked.

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