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    Quote: "Maturity is taught by time, experience and patience. Waiting 2 years won't kill anyone and hopefully they will be better prepared to act in a professional manner when they can play."

    What bull . The high school kids have been representing the league just fine, with a *success* rate the same as for the players who played several years in college.

    Like I said before, no one seemed to blink an eye about how "professional" players in other sports seem to act. Jennifer Capriati tripping out on ectasy in Tampa, Wayne Rooney getting into it with fans and getting into fights in bars, etc.

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    You are obviously under 40.

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    3-striped Laker Legend adidas11's Avatar
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    I see, the wonderful minor league of college basketball, which coincidentally, the NBA pays $0.00 in order to support. Lebron James would have definitely been better off playing at Univ of Cincinnati. LMAO.

    Come on Aggie, I know you can do better than that.

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    This isn't about the successful high school players versus successful college graduates.

    This is about all the Leon Smiths of the world flipping burgers for the rest of their lives with nothing to show for it.

    Like I said, other sports have different "peak" years. How many 30 year old track stars do you know? It's the same thing for tennis. In those sports, raw power and speed are all that matters.

    The tennis stars of the last 20 years and for the rest of time all start at private tennis academies when they're like 10-12 years old and get professional instruction for 5-7 hours a day, plus an in-house nutritionist and weight/cardio trainers.

    The only way your tennis v. basketball comparison would hold any ground is if the NBA started little basketball homes for the 10 year old playground ballers of the world to live at, eat, and breathe basketball for all of their teenage childhood.

    But that will never happen (and would be ludicrous if it did), so drop it.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    A list of players who went to college for 4 years:

    Anderson Hunt (UNLV)-- didn't make it past preseason with the Celtics
    Trajan Langdon (Duke) ---jerking off in Alaska
    Cherokee Parks (Duke)---didn't he used to play for the Spurs?
    Bobby Hurley (Duke)---he struggled even before his car accident
    Chris Carawell (Duke) ---bust

    And the list goes on, and on, and on....

    Some players make it, and some players don't. Doesn't matter when they jump to the pros.
    I love the irony in listing four Dukies (Coach K's guys were notorious for not living up to their college billing until Elton Brand rolled around) and Anderson Hunt in the same statement on full eligibility busts. People forget though that Hunt scored 29 in the le game over the Blue Devils, and just fell off the face of the earth after the drug bust.

    But you're dead on about making it. Some guys can do it and some can't.

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    This is not Spurs related. Is illiteracy a requirement to post here?

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    How many 30 year old track stars do you know?

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    This is not Spurs related. Is illiteracy a requirement to post here?
    Ok, that was kind of funny.

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    Maturity is taught by time, experience and patience. Waiting 2 years won't kill anyone and hopefully they will be better prepared to act in a professional manner when they can play.
    Bites lip.

    I'll leave the easy lobs for someone else.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    This is not Spurs related. Is illiteracy a requirement to post here?
    Unintentional Comedy Rating Bonus:

    A question regarding literacy in a thread talking about O'Neal's rhetorical skills and players going/not going to college.


    Last edited by jalbre6; 04-12-2005 at 11:27 PM. Reason: even funnier: I made a typo in a literacy thread!

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    Aggie, Leon Smith can still go to college if he wants do (as long as he qualifies academically).

    You live the life that you choose. Don't feel sorry for him.

    And now you're saying that you're only allowed to go pro at a young age, as long as you grow up in a secluded and pampered lifestyle (i.e. the tennis acadamies)? If the NBA is so worried about those potential players, why don't they put their money where their mouth is, and provide and support basketball acadamies?

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    Remember this, Tony Parker was 19 when he came to the Spurs. If they had a 20 year old age limit, we might not have him now.

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    This is about all the Leon Smiths of the world flipping burgers for the rest of their lives with nothing to show for it.
    BULL !

    It's much more about Tim Thomas than it is Leon Smith.

    Didn't Leon Smith get a contract? What did he miss out on?

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    Guru-
    You can point out my mistakes until kingdom come. I make typos all the live long day. But I am not on national television as a role model to millions. I am not even doing anything here except stating my opinion.

    I do not like JO, that is no secret. So go ahead and keep up the good work.

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    Bone-in-azz shudda gone to college. He's emotionally and intellectually stunted at 16 years old. Bad takes on bball, bad takes on anything. He thinks a "stereotype" is always inaccurate.

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    Remember this, Tony Parker was 19 when he came to the Spurs. If they had a 20 year old age limit, we might not have him now.
    Yes, he is an exception to the rule. There are probably many exceptions.

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    You guys are right...it is about color...but the color is green. As long as the owners see these high school kids as a ticket to win, they will continue drafting them.

    Personally I think there should be an age limit in all sports, 18.

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    Bone-in-azz shudda gone to college. He's emotionally and intellectually stunted at 16 years old. Bad takes on bball, bad takes on anything. He thinks a "stereotype" is always inaccurate.
    I am not a man, I have 3 college degrees and my name is bones in Arizona. You have proven that you cannot have a polite discourse and have resorted to personal attacks.

    bye

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    You can point out my mistakes until kingdom come. I make typos all the live long day.
    I was not drawing attention to a typo.

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    OK,
    I re-read my post. Guru, I don't care what color a player is. Please do not read anything else into it. thanks

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    Didn't Leon Smith get a contract? What did he miss out on?
    College eligibility. But as a first round pick he got guaranteed money, right? I'm not going to cry over someone who tried to OD on aspirin after going to his old high school in Chicago to confront his (ex?) girlfriend.

    The Mavs took a gamble on him and lost. He gambled on his skills instead of going to college and honing his game, and maybe growing up a little. Sad, yeah. But he got paid.

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    And now you're saying that you're only allowed to go pro at a young age, as long as you grow up in a secluded and pampered lifestyle (i.e. the tennis acadamies)?
    That's not what I'm saying at all, but thanks for missing the point completely.

    My point was that you can't compare tennis to pro basketball because the whole developmental process of a youth tennis player is substantially different than that of a basketball player.

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    College eligibility. But as a first round pick he got guaranteed money, right? I'm not going to cry over someone who tried to OD on aspirin after going to his old high school in Chicago to confront his (ex?) girlfriend.

    The Mavs took a gamble on him and lost. He gambled on his skills instead of going to college and honing his game, and maybe growing up a little. Sad, yeah. But he got paid.
    Pardon the Bill Hicks rip-off, but a card trick means more to a dog than college eligibility could have ever meant to Leon Smith.

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    leon smith was crazy, no amount of waiting would ever fix that

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    Pardon the Bill Hicks rip-off, but a card trick means more to a dog than college eligibility could have ever meant to Leon Smith.


    You got a point there, GoN. But if he wanted to, he could have gone to college. Someone (Bob Huggins and John Calipari, please stand up) would have gotten him in school and kept him eligible for at least one season.

    I personally don't think that option ever even crossed Smith's mind, but it was there if desired. He did the right thing for himself at that point in time, especially if you consider when he was drafted six years ago HS'ers weren't that popular in the draft.

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