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no body likes to be pushed around but seeing them STEP IT up is refreshing !
COUNT ME IN!
I'm going to embarrass myself here, because I can't remember exactly when it occurred, but in the Blazers game last night, did anyone notice how Nazr flat-out shoved that guy to the floor? It was, I think, right after that nice tip-in by Manu. I was surprised he didn't get a technical. (Is it not a "foul" if the clock's not running?) Don't get me wrong... I love the aggression, but I don't want him to get carried away.
no body likes to be pushed around but seeing them STEP IT up is refreshing !
COUNT ME IN!
I saw it. I'm not sure exactly what happened. I thought it was an And1 play for Manu. I thought the guy kinda fell back into Nazr from trying to contest Manu's shot, but it did seem Nazr "guided" him to the ground. I may be wrong though.
How many teams have TWO centers that can actually play starting minutes? Both guys give us something different and each can complement the other.
And we can now go from Bowen DPOY to Robinson's offense.
Let's not look at this as 'either-or" or x>y but look at the potential for their combined game: X+Y.
When Timmy gets back the Spurs front line is looking GOOD.
Having these different syle lineups makes it much more difficult for a team to prepare for the spurs.
Nazr had a really good game last night, but there were still times when he was out of position on D. The one that stands out was in the 4th when Portland began to crawl back into it. Nazr jumped out to try to poke away a steal, then wandered around up near the free throw line. Meanwhile, the perimiter guys steered Travis Outlaw to the left baseline. Instead of rotating to help, Nazr was frozen in no-man's land when Outlaw threw down the dunk. Rasho would have been there. At least Nazr didn't foul him like that late foul at Golden State. He's improving, and his rebounding is insane, but Rasho's D is still better than Nazr's. Nazr has come a long way over the past couple of games though.
Last edited by bigbendbruisebrother; 04-13-2005 at 12:41 PM. Reason: more retarded spelling
Exactly. For the past two games, Bowen & Robinson are averaging 26 points per game on 49% shooting, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, and 83% from the line. I can't remember getting numbers like that from the small forward position since Sean Elliot retired.
Last edited by bigbendbruisebrother; 04-13-2005 at 01:16 PM.
I don't think Sean EVER had that high a shooting or points per game average. To get to 20 point SF for the Spurs you have to go back to Mike Mitc and Larry Kenon.
Nasr and Big Dog trades have really big upside possibilities and no downsides that I can see. PROPS to the FO and Pop.
Good point. GR reminds me of Mitch a lot.
Robinson is way better than Mike Mitc come on.
Robinson is the Steve Kerr of 05.
Comes in, bags some shots, has some whily veteran play.
Brent Barry reminds me of Stephen Jackson more and more.
He had a few seasons with those totals. see below
3-POINT FGS FREE THROWS POINTS
Season Team ts Pts/G
89-90 SA 10.0
90-91 SA 15.9
91-92 SA 16.3
92-93 SA 17.2
93-94 Det 12.1
94-95 SA 18.1
95-96 SA 20.0
96-97 SA 14.9
97-98 SA 9.3
98-99 SA 11.2
99-00 SA 6.0
00-01 SA 7.9
Totals Made
589 Att
1572 Pct
.375 Att/G
2.1 Made
2251 Att
2816 Pct
.799 Att/G
3.8 Pts
10544 Pts/G
14.2
Wild Bill forgets how good Sean Elliott was.
T Park, speak not of that for which you have no knowledge.
I'd bet a dollar you never even saw Mitc play, and if you did it was only through one eye as you sucked on your mama's teet.
agreed
ahhh suckin teet those where the days.
Mitc was great but Elliot was no sloutch. That is the only point I was making with those stats.
I wasn't trying to say anything other than these past two games have seen the SF position be more productive (on offense) than it has been in years. Elliott and Mitch both come to mind. It remains to be seen if it will become a real trend.
wildbill2u is right about Mike Mitc . Mitch in his prime he was an incredible shooter. I watched him play at Hemisfair from when he came to SA (mid-season 82 I think) until 1988. His body, playing style and shot closely resemble Glenn Robinson's. The word "touch" comes to mind. He had a career FG% of 49.3%, and averaged a hair off of 20 points per game for his career. In his prime years, 1982 to 86, his average was closer to 23 ppg.
Mitch's most prolific year was in 1986. Glenn Robinson's was 2001. For what its worth (and wasn't this thread about Nazr & Rasho?) check out a comparison of the two players at http://www.basketball-reference.com/...submit=Compare
I love that website.
I don't want to spoil the ending for you, but when you compare them in any of their prime years, Mike Mitc comes out on top. To me comparing Robinson to Mitch is a of a compliment to the Big Dog. Let's hope he can maintain some consistency.
I didn't mean to diss Eliott. He was a great all around player for the Spurs. Helped win championship when others fell short.
But he simply was not the pure shooter that Mitc or Kenon were and the comment was about pure shooting prowess.
Those guys had better shooting ppg avg. than Elliot while playing with Gervin who was the teams leading scorer and go to guy. Mitc 's first season he averaged 21 ppg (Compare to TD or Manu or TP now)
Yea I agree with that. Elliots strength was creating his own offense when the spurs went stagnent, man he had the best first step in the leauge during his prime.
My earlier comment was to show that we did have a forward that averaged 20 points etc since mitc during a seson, although not the consistent carreer average that Mitc had.
89 90.I'd bet a dollar you never even saw Mitc play, and if you did it was only through one eye as you sucked on your mama's teet
Same situation same way.
I was THERE when he played with the Spurs at the end of that year.
So dont even TRY me Ed.
Summers -
Nazr was being physical with Przbilla on that play. He definitely pushed him, but Pryz definitely flopped like a mofo on that one too.
Sean hit 20 ppg avg ONCE in his career. Mitc Averaged 19.8 for his entire ten year career including a rookie year where he only got 10.7 and his two final years where he didn't play a full season or up to his previous standards because of various personal/medical problems.
In Larry Kenon's four years with the Spurs his LOWEST Average per game was 20.1 and his highest was 22.1.
I don't know if Nazr can get all the defensive rotations down well enough to truly excel in the playoffs this year.
I do know that after a summer of practice he will be starting next to Tim in the fall.
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