Wow redskins.
All is not lost Redskins fans. I know alot of you guys prob want to mail it in and jump ship, but remember that we (Ravens) lost to a winless Miami team two years ago. Sure it cost Billick his job, but the next season we were playing in the AFC le game so. Take what you want from that. Zorn probably needs to be shown the door though.
Very true, so take heart Redskin fan, as long as Romo is at QB...you always have a chance.
Puta? Haha you illiterate dumb if you paid attention to anything you'd know I'm one of the biggest Cowboys fans here. I'm disgusted they manage to everything up and have become completely inept and soft over the last 10 yrs but I'm still a fan. Who the are you?
unbelivable
Doesn't matter. Dallas can never be as humiliated as Washington was being the '1' in the 1989 Dallas 1-15 season.
well, the Redskins' problems extend far beyond the coach, they are a dysfunctional organization overall.
i'm not convinced that zorn won't be a good head coach someday. i can see teh reasoning behind almost every decision on its face, but no matter what he does, it always comes up snake eyes. he'll need a Belichek-Cleveland type reset to ever put it together.
i don't know, a lot of cowboy fans were pretty embarrassed with the team being swept by Norv (losing to both Gus Frerotte and Heath Shuler) during their '95 championship season.
That's collins entire game. As bad as it is to see JC check down almost every single play, Collins NEVER goes downfield.
Are you serious? Really? I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan..I guaran-damn-tee you that I didn't give two s about them losing to the Skins those times after they hoisted that trophy. But being the only team to lose to a horrible, unwinnable team twice (Dallas in '89 and Detroit in '09) is pretty sad.
wow, the skins suck.
thanks for the kind words florige, but as K-State said, the problem is systemic and it starts at the top.
i want snyder in the box on game days and other than that, just signing checks.
i would love for vinnie to be canned TODAY, and throw power and big bucks at any GM worth a , will Casserly come back? and let him take over...
maybe then we can hire a top notch coach (i feel no coach with any self respect is coming through the doors of redskins park with vinnie still running the show...it would purely a money grab, just like alot of our FA players...)
dreams of cowher are just dreams and it won't matter if vinnie is still there...cuz he's the damn evil voice in snyder's ear...
the players, the coaches....their all just patsies...
i like zorn, campbell...i want to root for orakpo...a few others...but it's just an nfl team gone coporate. where everyone does enough not to get fired...and even then...they don't give a damn, because they got paid, and if they have a shred of talent, they'll catch on somewhere else anyway...and be better off...
so i'm done. when vinnie is gone or removed, i'll root for the skins again...til then, it's for whoever is playing the skins. Go Tampa.
(note, i will never root for dallas, vs skins or otherwise...for that game, i'll simply hope that the million pound plus big screen falls on both teams...)
hail old school redskins. may they return one day...
you do realize that the redskins won 10 games in '89. yeah, losing to the cowboys sucked, but that 9 game lead in the standings helped. not to mention that Gibbs had just won the Super Bowl in '88 and would win it again 2 years later.
so, basically you're saying that losing to a horrid cowboys team once while still having a good season = embarrassing.
but getting swept by a bad Redskins team while still having a great season = no big deal.
you'll forgive me if i struggle to follow the logic.
Wow..you're struggling to follow MY logic? You said it yourself. One team had a great season (Super Bowl), and the other had a good season (No Super Bowl). You don't look at your losses quite as hard when you win the last game of the season..that's a fact. You're saying that it sucked more for the Cowboys to lose a ty Redskins team and win the le than it sucked for the Skins to lose to a RIDICULOUSLY horrible Cowboys team and NOT win the le?
ridiculous debate, but hold onto that 1 victory in 89. props.
it felt good to sweep the eventual superbowl winners in 95 as well...
there here and now?
both teams suck, haven't won in over a decade, and have suspect management.
difference is, skins fans know what we're dealing with and know reality.
if dallas wins vs. the giants, there would be superbowl talk on the local sports radio shows...but they lost, so it's back to romo bashing and wade sucks. we're talking a field goal difference and two different sides of the spectrum as far as fan reaction...it's comical and it's what gets me through the sundays to be quite frank.
No, I'm saying that neither was that big of a deal once the season was over.
The Redskins blow...that is all.
! You guys will be fine. Every team goes thru it at some point.
This Redskin team is in complete disarray so early in the season and it's a very sad thing to see. A once great franchise is now only a s of its former self if that. I used to look forward to Sunday's and the Redskins game but now to watch is only an exercise in misery and futility. How the do you drop a game to most pathetic, worthless team in history? Unless you yourself are in that class. What I witnessed Sunday was a debacle so complete that I was totally depressed by halftime.
The defense showed me they have absolutely no heart by giving up a 99 drive to the Lions! With a rookie quarterback! How does that happen unless the defense has totally quit on the field. And don't get me started on JC or the lack of a running game. Sure, Campbell's stat line looks respectable but he was totally ineffective in the red zone and on third down. And I would not be surprised if Zorn is gone in a week's time. I'm... just so fed up with this whole ing organization.
forgetting the real problem and looking at the field of play,
we should all realize that our oline, while decent in pass protection, really really sucks at run blocking.
don't know if buges is past his prime as a coach or not, but once again it's on vinnie as our pseudo GM to put some hogs on the field. i didn't expect an overhaul overnight, but samuels has been over rated for years, 'false start' dockery was a cheap fix and a C- updgrade from an F with what's his face last year...Rabach is undersized as a center and gets pushed around with ease...
the writing was on the wall with Thomas and his injury history....it was on the wall with BIG BOLD LETTERS...and snyderatto must have decided that it was best to just cross our fingers, hold our breath, and be content with rookies and late round picks that might be able to contribute should the need arise...
Jansen was finally let go...thank God...but about 2 years too late...and while i'm very glad we got Orakpo...I wanted Oher to be our RT, and he is now with the superbowl bound ravens... .
So we got another guy with 'potential' at RT, who couldn't even beat out an overmatched, overpowered and gimpy Jansen last year....Heyer got the job by default.
Add this to Zorn's lack of run scheme disguises...(does anyone NOT know when the skins are gonna run?)...i.e....no runs out of a spread formation or a double tight ends spread wide set...
and then throw in a just past his prime portis who obviously was a step slower LAST YEAR...
and what do you have?
you have runs that more often than not go for a net gain of ONE ING YARD.
you have a uva hard time scoring in the redzone...cuz no one is afraid of the run and they know exactly when it's coming...
you have a team that will crumble...
you have the Snderatto Skins.
Its not the line. Campbell has had time today and has just looked awful. If I was a bookie I wouldn't trust this guy to throw a game right now. I don't see how he avoids getting benched if he keeps playing like this.
In fact the run blocking has looked pretty good today.
looking good now.
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Skins are 2-0 against winless teams. Looking good for Sunday.
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