Illegal Immigrants/Steroid/MLB analogy....

[ChumpDumper]

I predict the states of Ohio, PA, Wisconsin etc. will be IRATE come election time when they find out that illegals are getting govenment subsidized health-care.

If they are getting it too and everyone participating is paying, I think they will be less IRATE.

[nkdlunch]

Actually, no. Saying Illegals can receive emergency care and buy health insurance isnt the same as receiving government subsidized health insurance.

I was talking about Healthcare. Illegals can receive free healthcare at the ER at expense of taxpayers or they can pay for their healthcare. That is right now. Same status quo for after Obamacare.

But more importantly, youre not arguing that illegals wont receive health care, so why is Obama?

again you bring up healthcare, see my previous point.

[mookie2001]

people who have a job and have health care are worried they will lose it.

then if you lose your healthcare, you would be like all the rest of us poor bas without healthcare

[DarrinS]

Why would people from Mexico want to come here for health care? Don't they have a public health care plan there? I hear it's awesome.

[rjv]

i say what's the big deal.. the illegal mexicans here are the only ones left in this country who have a work ethic.

[Gino]

I was talking about Healthcare. Illegals can receive free healthcare at the ER at expense of taxpayers or they can pay for their healthcare. That is right now. Same status quo for after Obamacare.



again you bring up healthcare, see my previous point.

No, under Obmacare, people living at at a certain percentage above and below the poverty level would get government subsidies towards health insurance. Illegal immigrants would be excluded but the government wont verify citizenship before granting subsidies. Thats not the same as status quo.

I dont think you understand what Obamacare is.

[mookie2001]

I dont think you understand what Obamacare is.

made up?

[hope4dopes]

i say what's the big deal.. the illegal mexicans here are the only ones left in this country who have a work ethic.

No dude it's just that poor hard working whites and blacks are invisible to people like you.

[Wild Cobra]

Imprisoning 1 illegal employer, is much cheaper than prosecuting, convicting and deporting countless undo ented workers and the crime they commit per employer. You can throw in the costs of the border wall and protection services along the border. They won't be here if they can't make a living. They have been leaving recently due to poor economic conditions.

Heck. I'd run for office and fix this if it wasn't for the fact that people are so ignorant of everything nowadays. I'd rather just keep to myself.

Something we agree on.

Take away all incentives for the illegals to be here, and they will go back home. At least most of them.

Require employment verification with a grace period if things don't check out so the employee can get his status corrected if legal.

Employers who are caught employing non-citizens without a work visa get fined and jail time.

[Wild Cobra]

again, Illegals already can receive any healthcare if they pay for it. same thing under obamacare. nothing to see here.

Actually, the only thing I have seen doesn't allow illegals to file for a specific medical related tax credit. They get everything else!

[Wild Cobra]

i think its funny 99% of people against "obamacare", HAVE insurance

I think it's disgraceful that 99% of the people who want Obamacare just want legal theft of my money, and other peoples money.

[nuclearfm]

Something we agree on.

Take away all incentives for the illegals to be here, and they will go back home. At least most of them.

Require employment verification with a grace period if things don't check out so the employee can get his status corrected if legal.

Employers who are caught employing non-citizens without a work visa get fined and jail time.

We agree on a lot more than that, but more often than not it's just worthless counterpoints going on here. I decided to join the attack party. If you can't beat them, join them. Together we'll bring this country down.

[mookie2001]

I think it's disgraceful that 99% of the people who want Obamacare just want legal theft of my money, and other peoples money.

i dont need obama to take your money i could use my fists

[hater]

No, under Obmacare, people living at at a certain percentage above and below the poverty level would get government subsidies towards health insurance. Illegal immigrants would be excluded but the government wont verify citizenship before granting subsidies. Thats not the same as status quo.

I dont think you understand what Obamacare is.

and I dont think you understand illegals. dudes are scared to come close to any kind of goverment office for fear of being deported. You really think they will file for this?

how many illegals are getting welfare? does welfare check for citizen status?

[Wild Cobra]

I decided to join the attack party. If you can't beat them, join them. Together we'll bring this country down.

Funny, I prefer not to attack, but I constantly find myself doing it because it is the nature in this forum.

[Wild Cobra]

i dont need obama to take your money i could use my fists

I'll match your fists and raise you my feet!

[Wild Cobra]

how many illegals are getting welfare? does welfare check for citizen status?

Not in Oregon.

If you are black or white, you have to provide proof you need the services. If you are brown, they just have you fill out paperwork with no verification, then give you what's like a credit card that fills with cash and food stamps each month. All you need is an ID and address.

[ElNono]

Not in Oregon.

If you are black or white, you have to provide proof you need the services. If you are brown, they just have you fill out paperwork with no verification, then give you what's like a credit card that fills with cash and food stamps each month. All you need is an ID and address.

I doubt they take foreign passports...

[Wild Cobra]

I doubt they take foreign passports...

You're right.

Until recently, illegals could take their Mexican ID and go to the Oregon DMV and get a drivers license. I don't know what is done now, but there are a very large number of them here draining our tax resources. It wouldn't surprise me if Social Services accepts their Mexican ID. Maybe they take the Consular card they can get issued at the Mexican Embassy. That's all they need to get bank accounts, etc.

[hater]

You're right.

Until recently, illegals could take their Mexican ID and go to the Oregon DMV and get a drivers license. I don't know what is done now, but there are a very large number of them here draining our tax resources. It wouldn't surprise me if Social Services accepts their Mexican ID. Maybe they take the Consular card they can get issued at the Mexican Embassy. That's all they need to get bank accounts, etc.

fair enough so ppl here are assuming Obamacare will take foreign passports?