Why Mix Politics With Basketball????

[baseline bum]

Well, you said it BEFORE going on to talk about having a tier system the the rest of the world with public options... this isn't a political forum, and I didn't intend to take it that far in a political direction.

My point was that I thought Popovich's comments were dismissive of the opposing point of view to the point of being insulting.

You already turned it into a political thread by posting your rightwing beliefs. No way people are going to shut up and take that garbage.

[Bartleby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5_gT...eature=related

[greyforest]

death panel in us = not hvaing money lol

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

Our country is ed paying medical costs when the baby boomers who trashed this nation hit retirement age unless something is done to significantly rein in costs. We pay 20% more per capita then the next most expensive healthcare option in the world; that of Switzerland, which manages to cover everyone.

So naturally, the way to bring costs DOWN is to hand it all over to the federal government... the untarnished PICTURE of fiscal responsibility. Again, all of our existing en lement programs are head for bankruptcy SOON.

Every time the government says it has a plan to pay for something, it turns out to be a total crock, and costs WILDLY overrun their rosy estimates. And they DON'T even have a good plan EVEN ON PAPER to pay for the "public option".

We are operating our country the way some people live off of credit cards. We pay 800 million dollars A WEEK to China in interest. And that's just China... we pay a number of other countries as well, including some middle-eastern countries that don't even like us. We are trashing the dollar and hurling this country toward a brick wall.

Another massive government program isn't even an option any honest, sane elected official should even THINK about until we repair all the severely cracked dams - on track for imminent failure - holding the flood waters of Social Security, Medicare, and other en lement programs.

Our global credit rating will soon be reduced... and the world is rapidly talking about moving away from the Dollar as the global currency because of INTERNATIONAL concern over reckless spending in the U.S. And that will have a HUGE effect on the economic strength of this country indefinitely.

Dude, communist CHINA is telling us that our government is beginning to spend WAY too much. When T.Geithner went to China and told them that the dollar was still a safe place to put their money, they literally laughed at him out loud.

We are headed for serious trouble if both Democrats AND Republicans don't get their together and turn this ship around. And that's WITHOUT a massive government healthcare takeover.

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

What's funny is how we won't hear a peep out of this guy when it comes to the cost of the Iraqi war. That is because the Fear of terrorism has clouded his judgment.

Wow... the Iraq War. Strong comeback dude. How long did it take you to think that one up?

Setting aside whether you or I agree or disagree with the Iraq war... speaking solely in terms of money here, wars come and go. When you put a MASSIVE government en lement in place, it stays FOREVER, and the costs just snowball every decade.

AGAIN, look at the en lement programs we already have. We've been on the wrong track, fiscally, for a long time, and America has seemed to do just fine in spite of that fact. Therefore, many people think we can just go on running our country this way. But just like a person who lives on credit cards... you CAN'T do it forever. It WILL catch up to you.

And it IS beginning to catch up to us. If both parties don't get their together, we will NOT hand a country to our kids that is nearly as strong as the one we now enjoy.

[CubanSucks]

I think of it this way, I have friends that may disagree with me on certain issues but they are still my friends even though they piss me off when said issue gets brought up. It's the same with this situation, only I'm his fan not his friend

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

I think of it this way, I have friends that may disagree with me on certain issues but they are still my friends even though they piss me off when said issue gets brought up. It's the same with this situation, only I'm his fan not his friend

Perfectly sensible. Probably the best way to look at this.

[celldweller]

Arguing with Idiots!

[baseline bum]

So naturally, the way to bring costs DOWN is to hand it all over to the federal government... the untarnished PICTURE of fiscal responsibility. Again, all of our existing en lement programs are head for bankruptcy SOON.

Happens when you have idiots like Bush coming and slashing taxes for the rich while squeezing the middle class out of the picture. Look at how GM got murdered by healthcare costs. That's going to be everyone in a few years as long as the Tony Sopranos in the insurance industry are charging us 20% tributes on top of the cost of health care. It'll be the last kick in the nuts the conservative baby boomers can get in on us all. Look at how far our country has fallen in the past 30 years under economically conservative leaders like Reagan, daddy Bush, Clinton, and dummy Bush.

Every time the government says it has a plan to pay for something, it turns out to be a total crock, and costs WILDLY overrun their rosy estimates. And they DON'T even have a good plan EVEN ON PAPER to pay for the "public option".

I love the conservative religion of all things government being bad. The federal government put a man on the moon. They built the internet. They won a world war. They built an amazing highway system and a spectacular national parks system. Public healthcare has done wonders worldwide to limit healthcare costs. But the conservative battle-cry is always "no we can't!"

We are operating our country the way some people live off of credit cards. We pay 800 million dollars A WEEK to China in interest. And that's just China... we pay a number of other countries as well, including some middle-eastern countries that don't even like us. We are trashing the dollar and hurling this country toward a brick wall.

Our country is being run like an oligarchy. The banks get taxpayers to take their risks while they run home with the profits. The insurance giants buy off the assholes against reigning in our costs to keep us stuck with them (unless you want to pay the ridiculous uninsured costs hospitals charge to make up for what the insurance companies try to weasel out of).

Another massive government program isn't even an option any honest, sane elected official should even THINK about until we repair all the severely cracked dams - on track for imminent failure - holding the flood waters of Social Security, Medicare, and other en lement programs.

Doing nothing as our economy collapses under the weight of insurance vandals is the worst option possible. You can't seriously believe our healthcare system is at all adequate.

Our global credit rating will soon be reduced... and the world is rapidly talking about moving away from the Dollar as the global currency because of INTERNATIONAL concern over reckless spending in the U.S. And that will have a HUGE effect on the economic strength of this country indefinitely.

Thanks to conservative initiatives neutering regulation of derivatives markets.

Dude, communist CHINA is telling us that our government is beginning to spend WAY too much. When T.Geithner went to China and told them that the dollar was still a safe place to put their money, they literally laughed at him out loud.

I would too since nothing has changed due to people screaming socialism every time any reform is attempted.

We are headed for serious trouble if both Democrats AND Republicans don't get their together and turn this ship around. And that's WITHOUT a massive government healthcare takeover.

We're there. Your idea is more of the same when we have already seen the disastrous results.

[itzsoweezee]

Greg Popovich: "If you're going to have any compe ion at all, you've got to have a public option. How can you not have a public option?! I mean, just the fright and the intimidation that's trying to be perpetrated on everybody is just sickening."

further proof that popovich is the coolest coach in basketball.

[itzsoweezee]

Happens when you have idiots like Bush coming and slashing taxes for the rich while squeezing the middle class out of the picture. Look at how GM got murdered by healthcare costs. That's going to be everyone in a few years as long as the Tony Sopranos in the insurance industry are charging us 20% tributes on top of the cost of health care. It'll be the last kick in the nuts the conservative baby boomers can get in on us all. Look at how far our country has fallen in the past 30 years under economically conservative leaders like Reagan, daddy Bush, Clinton, and dummy Bush.



I love the conservative religion of all things government being bad. The federal government put a man on the moon. They built the internet. They won a world war. They built an amazing highway system and a spectacular national parks system. Public healthcare has done wonders worldwide to limit healthcare costs. But the conservative battle-cry is always "no we can't!"



Our country is being run like an oligarchy. The banks get taxpayers to take their risks while they run home with the profits. The insurance giants buy off the assholes against reigning in our costs to keep us stuck with them (unless you want to pay the ridiculous uninsured costs hospitals charge to make up for what the insurance companies try to weasel out of).



Doing nothing as our economy collapses under the weight of insurance vandals is the worst option possible. You can't seriously believe our healthcare system is at all adequate.



Thanks to conservative initiatives neutering regulation of derivatives markets.



I would too since nothing has changed due to people screaming socialism every time any reform is attempted.



We're there. Your idea is more of the same when we have already seen the disastrous results.

game, set, match.

[peskypesky]

further proof that popovich is the coolest coach in basketball.

[Em-City]

i agree w/ pop on this one and i have no problem in sportspeople contributing an opinion... Robinson can talk about god, but pop can't talk about Health Care?.. come on now...

[completely deck]

He was in the mood to answer the question that was asked, so he answered it.

[iManu]

Thank you, Pop. When I first heard the fearful zombie posting, I became afraid and thought I wouldn't Love my team anymore.

You are the Best. I don't care what Kanye says about Beyonce's videos. Cheers.

[STX_21]

Kent, you're mad because Pop's view opposes your own. Actually, you're just angry, and you were angry before Pop answered this question. You can't like someone who sees this health care issue differently than you do? lol. Come on Kent, grow the up!

[SpursPreacher]

I have my views on health care and what not but am I alone and thinking I dont care what pop things on health care I only care how he is going to get this team back to the nba finals.

[flox]

\Haha, wait a minute, are you upset because your false position with your false facts and false beliefs are being called out?

That folks, is sickening.


(fyi the second you created this thread in a basketball forum asking for basketball and politics not being mixed and then arguing politics..well then...)

[DJB]

Why don't you go find an Obamatalk.com forum and shut the up?

[BlackBellamy]

Move this piece of thread already. There is a political forum you s. If I wanted to know what a bunch of dip- s pretending to be pundits have to think I'd have 5 ing channels to choose from. Shouldn't sports and our specific team comradery be a sacred escape from these divisions? Assholes.

Edit: I hope the hypocrisy of the ' le vs. the political subject matter' on this thread in the National Basketball Association section of Spurs Talk is not lost on you.

[Russ]

Gosh, I hope this isn't too political . . .

If you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that one day we would become Communist.

-- Jane Fonda (speaking to students at the University of Michigan in 1970)

[CubanSucks]

Move this piece of thread already. There is a political forum you s. If I wanted to know what a bunch of dip- s pretending to be pundits have to think I'd have 5 ing channels to choose from. Shouldn't sports and our specific team comradery be a sacred escape from these divisions? Assholes.

Edit: I hope the hypocrisy of the ' le vs. the political subject matter' on this thread in the National Basketball Association section of Spurs Talk is not lost on you.

yup

[Baseline]

Well, if Pop had flapped his lip with a view opposite of what he said, it would be a national story.

I would rather him keep his political opinions to himself while he's coaching the Spurs. He also said he felt like Leno. Well, he's no comedian either.

Note to Pop: If overaged #2 guards fail, let them fail. When you signed Finley to a 2-year deal, you failed. When you should have sat Finley last year and didn't, you failed. So try not to make the same mistake this year or you may need to be bailed out. Oh, wait...you don't believe in bailouts either.

[NZ Spurs]

speaking solely in terms of money here, wars come and go.

Wrong.

"One economist from America's Yale University predicted rebuilding Iraq could cost up to $1.6 trillion over 10 years".

[sabar]

Why are people arguing politics here? There are thousands of threads in the political forum where you can spout off your party line endlessly for 32 pages while being trolled as you do it. Pick one, they're all the same thing. If you are bothered by someone's political opinion so much that you actually dislike them, then you should probably re-examine how you approach life.

This place should be for basketball, something that actually matters in life. The playing time of Finley is by far more important than whatever scheme congress is cooking up to screw you and your children. Your vote means nothing. Supporting the Spurs does.