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i was referring to them shooting back at jack (and of course in a sardonic tone).
pay more attention. i am attempting to derail this thread and your being serious is not helping that cause.
So you shoot everybody just in case some of them are criminals?
Women, kids...everyone?
I´d like to know...
i was referring to them shooting back at jack (and of course in a sardonic tone).
pay more attention. i am attempting to derail this thread and your being serious is not helping that cause.
http://www.migrationinformation.org/...lay.cfm?id=403Data from the 5 percent Public Use Microsample (PUMS) of the 2000 census were used to measure the ins utionalization rates of immigrants and natives, focusing on males 18 to 39, most of whom are in correctional facilities. Of the 45.2 million males age 18 to 39, three percent were in federal or state prisons or local jails at the time of the 2000 census — a total of over 1.3 million, in line with official prison statistics at that time.
Surprisingly, at least from the vantage of conventional wisdom, the data show the above hypotheses [that immigrants commit crimes more often] to be unfounded. In fact, the incarceration rate of the US born (3.51 percent) was four times the rate of the foreign born (0.86 percent). The foreign-born rate was half the 1.71 percent rate for non-Hispanic white natives, and 13 times less than the 11.6 percent incarceration rate for native black men ...
Of particular interest is the finding that the lowest incarceration rates among Latin American immigrants are seen for the least educated groups: Salvadorans and Guatemalans (0.52 percent), and Mexicans (0.70 percent). These are precisely the groups most stigmatized as "illegals" in the public perception and outcry about immigration.Namely?It ignores the ecological diasters created by illegals.
I've no interest in helping your cause.I'm more interested in closing the border and deporting these people.
Fine. But shooting them? That was a really stupid thing to say...
really? by posting on a light hearted forum at a spurs site?
now that's activism.
In Los Angeles, over 95% of arrest warrants issued for the crime of murder are for illegal aliens. At least 83% of arrest warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens. The number climbs to 86% for Albuquerque. The most wanted lists for each of these cities is comprised of at least 75% illegal aliens.
The problem of prison overcrowding in California has been in the media many times over the past few months. Governor Schwarzenegger has attempted to gain relief from the overcrowding problem by shipping inmates to facilities in other states. Nearly 25% of the California prison population is comprised of illegal aliens. In Arizona, illegal aliens make up over 40% of the prison population and in New Mexico, the number is nearly 50%.
Illegal aliens account for nearly 30% of prison populations nationwide. This includes both state and federal prisons. The cost to house these illegal aliens is more than $1.6 billion dollars each year.
Statistics from 2005 indicate that over 75% of automobile thefts that occurred in Arizona, Nevada, California, Texas, and New Mexico were either stolen by illegal aliens or used to transport illegal aliens. Almost half of the drivers stopped in California for traffic violations have no driver's license, insurance, or registration. 92% of those are illegal aliens. In Arizona, 63% of those stopped have no license, registration or insurance and 97% of those people are illegal aliens. New Mexico's percentages are 66% stopped with no license, insurance and registration and 98% of those are illegal aliens.
whinehole even a good patron like you look stupid trying to push the lie juan valdez and his donkey are coming to america.
As for the ecological disaster the deserts of southeren Arizona are being trashed, an ecosystem that is extemely fragile.
Links?
And for all those folks that are concerend over illegals being shot. illegals are trashing peoples homes when they cross the border they leave gates cut, or open in which livestock escape, they leave water taps running in a desert. On the Mexican side of the border the ranchers that are having their ranches trashed are shooting at them, so you may wanna go down into mexico and demand social justice...see how far you get rubio.
Do you have any links for your crime statistics? People might think you just made it up.
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Chimp is that you?
All of them?
I don´t dispute the fact that there are illegal inmigrants who are criminals.
But shooting them is not the solution to the problem. Do you think that would stop them?
It would just make illegal inmigration even more violent.
This is an issue much like health care.The health care issue galvinized people, because it was an example of the contempt the goverment had for the people, and for the people's right to self determination.The real reason people were in the streets and going to town hall meetings was that they were angry over the goverments bullying grab for power over them.
This issue is the same, time and again the people have demanded the politcial class to close the borders, to allow all law enforcment agencies to work together to pursue illegals. Time and again the people have gone to the polls and voted for laws to close public funding to illegals,to close funding to sanctuary cities, and time and agian the left has used the peoples courts against them to opress them to silence their voice.
Like those of you who attended, and still are active with the tea party movement, You must join organizations that are trying to defend our borders, there many of them in every community in America now.You need to donate time and money, not alot but what you can. If we all give a little this problem can be solved. Numbers U.S.A is a good one. Grassfire. Californians for popultation stabilization.
The border security movement was like the tea parties, they were not started by politicains, they were not started by "community organizers" with federal grants. these orginizations of which there are tens of thousands now were started by citizens, and these orginizations are the ones that forced amnesty bills down during Bush, now we all need to join them to get active in order to crush these new bills, once again being pushed by the democrats.
Nobody is suggesting shooting them, there are far more effective ways to control the border.
"it was an example of the contempt the goverment had for the people, and for the people's right to self determination"
what stupid crap. Employers "determine" what health plans AND what they cost, not employees.
If you're not an employee, good damn luck trying to determine what the private insurers deem to offer you, if anything.
self-determination?
Notice also that a public option and exchanges will be forbidden to employees with an employer plan, to keep their salaries flowing right into the private insurers' executive compensation pots.
so winehole posts a link to a site for the migration policy ins ute that indicates that foreign born immigrants have lower incarceration rates for US born natives and hopeadope posts some stats with no links. hmmmmm.
Posts #9 and #11 on page 1.
micca should at least make sound believable when he pulls numbers out his ass.
something tells me he gets his figures from kkk.com
micca should at least make sound believable when he pulls numbers out his ass.
Yeah keep up the Nanacy Pelosi shtick it's done nothing more than drive thousands into the ranks of the tea parties.So anyone that doesn't tow the party line is now in the KKK great I couldn't give a rats ass what deadenders like you and bum do, the average citizen who sees the supporters of the Soros/Obama regime paint political dissent as terrorisim make bush look intelligent, and that's no mean feat.
Where did you get your stats?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...al.html?cat=17 enjoy.
micca should at least make sound believable when he pulls numbers out his ass.
Thank god that bookkeeper put a link to the FBI reports.
Looks like the bookkeeper who wrote micca's well-sourced article got her "statistics" from a chain email.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp
Jared Taylor (white supremacist) also has some good pulled out of his ass data on black on white crime.
Looks like the bookkeeper who wrote micca's well-sourced article got her "statistics" from a chain email.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp
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