Will Bynum or Odom grumble over minutes?

[exstatic]

Quite possibly the largest stretch in Spurstalk history right there. You equate the Kobe/Shack era of bickering with todays team and also the 60"s Lakers?

There always seems to be drama.

The 60's, where the Celts beat the Lakers like 7 times in the finals was were the Lakers were owned by Celtics. From 70 on the Lakers have the clear advantage. Somrthing like 9 championships to 6.

I'm talking strictly head to head. By my count it's 9-2 Celts.

Total rings will be caught up soon then we can put all talk of the Celts being the best organization to rest. If even today we go by the logic heard so many times on this board about how the Spurs are the team of the decade regardless that they won one less than the Lakers because they were the most consistent and didnt have those down years, then it's no contest.

Total rings won't tell the tale. The idea of going to the Prom is to bag the Prom Queen, not the homely thing. Boston has done that 85% of the time in the Finals. Do you know how many Finals LA would have to win without losing to catch that 85%? You've already lost 15, so to get to 85%, you'd have to get to 85 Finals wins with no more losses. Good luck ripping off that 70-0 Finals run.

Lakers...won most games ever, highest winning %, most playoff apperarences, etc etc

Not bad for a disfunctional lot....

Much respect. Not the best Finals %, though, not by a lot.

[Darthkiller]

will bynum is better than stuckey, he should start

[Culburn369]

"Total rings won't tell the tale."

If we can garner three more/sans Boston/topsy turvy. Us topsy, everybody else turvy.

[Ginobilly]

it's pau gasol's unselfishness, and Fischer's leadership that's keeping the lakers from imploding into egotistical territory.

[Culburn369]

it's pau gasol's unselfishness, and Fischer's leadership that's keeping the lakers from imploding into egotistical territory.

Thank Christ for Fisher's daughter's eye goin' sour, eh?....hubba, hubba.

[TheMACHINE]

The entire team save Kobe quit in OT of game 6 and then never bothered to show up to game 7.

Kobe shoots a bunch of shots in the 1st half of game 7 and the Lakers are down by 20+. Phil specifically tells Kobe to spread the ball around. Phoenix starts the second half with hard double teams 3pt line extended directed at Kobe as soon as he touches the rock. Kobe chucks up a couple tough 3 point bricks, angers Phil and then proceeds to pass to his wide open teammates watching them brick said wide open shots over and over. Phoenix continued double teaming Kobe as he immediately touched the ball.

That series would have ended up in only two ways in the media's eyes: Kobe quit! or Kobe ballhogged them out of the playoffs! Forget the fact that the Lakers had no business even making the playoffs in the first place with the trash they had on the roster.

Yah i remember that game. Kobe tried his hardest in the first half and were still down by a ton. Then he started passing it to Kwame alot in the 2nd and Kwame couldnt make a shot to save his life. Kobe specifically said that they cant beat the Suns even if he hits 50 points. He tried to get his teamates involved and failed.

[PDXSpursFan]

Bynum's glass knees won't last long into the season. PT problem solved.

[Culburn369]

Blair's glass knees won't last long into the season. PT problem solved.

tee, hee.

[Culburn369]

Yah i remember that game. Kobe tried his hardest in the first half and were still down by a ton. Then he started passing it to Kwame alot in the 2nd and Kwame couldnt make a shot to save his life. Kobe specifically said that they cant beat the Suns even if he hits 50 points. He tried to get his teamates involved and failed.

Kobe quit. Doesn't matter why. He got frustrated and quit. He needed to soldier and finish it. Anything can happen in life, but, he didn't give life a chance that 2nd half. He short circuited the process.

But, that don't mean you throw the baby out with the bath water. Jordan quit on the Bulls. Barkley quit on the Suns. Rodman quit on the Spurs. Pippen quit on the Bulls. So Kobe is in august company.