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It won't be the first time...Barkley got traded by raising a stink, Vince Carter...if a player wants to get traded bad enough they can usually pull it off.
They can't afford to pay a miserable Garnett who wants out IMO.
These two players were two of the most valuable and untradeable players in the league at one time. It's amazing how a player's stock can fall when things don't go well.
It won't be the first time...Barkley got traded by raising a stink, Vince Carter...if a player wants to get traded bad enough they can usually pull it off.
They can't afford to pay a miserable Garnett who wants out IMO.
Then they are headed for a bunch more lottery seasons. If this year isn't proof that an unhappy and unmotivated KG isn't a force, then nothing will convince them. He pretty much turned into Steve Nash on defense.I just can't imagine management agreeing to move him even if he's not happy.
Their best bet would be to try to pry away someone like Okefor or Howard for KG while he has value and is on top. Kobe ain't without Shaq, and Ray Ray is too old and has a bad knee. Go after a young stud to replace KG and build around that player. Minnesota needs to burn it down and start over. KG has taken them as far as he is able.
The Knicks are always an option, especially for Allen because he could force a sign-and-trade if he really wants out and Seattle really wants something other than cap space in return.
I'm not so sure about Garnett though. I can't see Steph going back to Minnesota, and I don't think the Knicks really have a franchise-caliber player to trade. Minny would demand a superstar in return. They would have to.
And no, even though you would probably disagree, I don't consider Malik Rose to be a franchise player.
Kobe has a no trade clause in his contract. No way he agrees to go to Minny particularly on a team in total rebuild.
Can't see how Minny isn't screwed. They have more holes than fills. Maybe they should just trade KG for high picks and young talent and go into full rebuild mode. Sell tickets on youth and growth.
karma is a aint it Garnett.
KG will put some people in the seats though. Jamal Crawford and Mike Sweetney aren't going to do that. Jumaine Jones and Chucky Atkins aren't going to do that.
If you're trading a player of his caliber, you absolutely need to get something of substance in return. The VC situation really doesn't apply here. Noboby ever thought he was a winner and he seems to prefer deferring to others in big moments. He's just not the same kind of player.
Barkley is interesting, too. But he was traded because Philly was convinced they couldn't win with an undersized power forward and because they felt his best years were behind him. Barkley's wishes to be traded made it a pressing issue, but those other reasons played a role, too.
Minny must believe that finding a way to get Garnett happy and bringing in some additional talent is the way to go. Garnett won't be traded in this offseason. It will take another year like this one to make that happen.
Brodels...there is no way possible the Knicks will get back equal value for Garnett because the only players of equal value are Duncan and Shaq...
So after that the best option is rebuilding as quickly as possible...and the Knicks can help a team do that... , they could help 2 or 3 teams do that...
They could take all the bad contracts the Wolves have along with KG...and give lottery picks, young talent and cap space in return.
I am not saying it's going to happen...but if Garnett gets traded it's going to be for something along those lines rather than equal value.
And the guy signed multiyear extension last year. He could be FA this summer. I feel kind of sorry for him. After all, he is still a great player.
The TWolves have no way of adding talent...they are capped out for at least one more season. They aren't going to get anyone good for Wally....
That's interesting. That pretty much kills that then.
It depends what you mean by screwed. They won fifty games and made the playoffs with KG, Wally, and some mediocre but cooperative support players. If they can unload Sam and Spree, that's pretty much what they've got.Can't see how Minny isn't screwed.
They won't contend with that core, but they could make the playoffs every year if KG is healthy and motivated. I guess it just depends on what matters most to management.
That's not going to happen. It's hard to sell tickets on potential, especially if you're winning 15 games a season.They have more holes than fills. Maybe they should just trade KG for high picks and young talent and go into full rebuild mode. Sell tickets on youth and growth.
Chicago has the young talent to make an interesting deal for KG.
Not only that but he took a gigantic paycut and gave up the grandfathered pre 98 CBA payrate of his old contract.
I disagree. He's still relatively young. They might not get equal talent in the sense that they'll get a player who is as good, but they will get a franchise player in return. You can't trade one of the best four players in the game in his prime without getting that in return. They could not sell that to their fanbase.
I could see him going to Chicago, I could see him wanting to go there, but I don't think they have that much to offer without resigning Curry and Chandler to long term deals.
I'm talking about adding small pieces. They could find a way to get back to being a fifty win, out in the first round of the playoffs kind of team.
Yeah they can...they could sell it the way teams always sell it..
"We were never going to win a le with this guy"
This was not on KG.
Spree and Cassell cost them this season with there "what is in it for me" at ude at the start of the preseason.
KG had a good year, but the chemistry was awful.
Fan base usually expects progress or hope not stagnation. Eventually, if they don't see the team getting closer to the ring, just spinning wheels as a first or second round and out, they stop buying tickets.
Look for all I know KG may want to stay in Minnesota...I don't know that he doesn't...but he's got to be sick of that front office...
And if he starts raising I don't see that the team has a lot of options..who wants a miserable SuperStar?
True. With Curry's future somewhat in question, they have some things to iron out there though. If Curry isn't able to go and they can't agree on a contract with Chandler, they don't have as much young talent as it might seem.
Yeah, and attendance will go down a bunch. People aren't going to buy that because he's been the face of the franchise for so long and he's still in his prime.
Exactly that, and Spree has a lot of worries how to feed his family.
109-94, there's your game.
I agree to an extent...but winning fifty games every year will draw a certain amount of interest.
It's a lot easier to sell that than a long rebuilding process.
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