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    Are you guys making, "Woohoo America is in trouble and we're happy because we can blame it on the other party" signs yet?
    That's the way the game is played. The officeholder gets the economy hung around his neck. If there's no credible turnaround before 2012, Obama is in trouble.

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    Are you guys making, "Woohoo America is in trouble and we're happy because we can blame it on the other party" signs yet?

    Can we borrow the ones you guys carried for the last 8 years?

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    Can we borrow the ones you guys carried for the last 8 years?
    Too late. You already stole it.

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    You hoisted yours up about two days after the election.

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    Are you guys making, "Woohoo America is in trouble and we're happy because we can blame it on the other party" signs yet?
    No need. They can just reuse the ones the other team was using a year ago.

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    Too late. You already stole it.

    I still want one of those Chicago olympic t-shirts, but they've probably all been shipped to Guatemala by now.

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    Can we borrow the ones you guys carried for the last 8 years?
    I voted for Bush in 2000. Nice try.

    And I would never hope that our country tanks just because someone I didn't vote for is in office.

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    Would you prefer there be even more people without jobs?


    WH, mindsets like this are the reason for the jobs saved and created claims.
    What exactly was stimulated, besides payraises and increased job hirings by the federal government (not exactly lasting stimulus).

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    What exactly was stimulated, besides payraises and increased job hirings by the federal government (not exactly lasting stimulus).
    The way the money is being spent is incredibly transparent and can be found at recovery.gov. I a lot of information on this already, and if you look at my past posts you can find it.

    To do a quick summary a lot of state governments were able to avoid drawbacks that would have led to massive job loss in teachers and other state employees. The increased unemployment benefits have had even bigger impacts on the economy. The money these people spend then keeps others employed and entails a positive feedback loop - basically the exact opposite of what was going on last fall.

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    That's the way the game is played. The officeholder gets the economy hung around his neck. If there's no credible turnaround before 2012, Obama is in trouble.
    This is how Obama got elected. I am more astounded by the lack of media towards this. I honestly doubt anyone wants America to do bad. I just think it is a reflection of the bad decisions by BHO and Pelosi.

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    This is how Obama got elected. I am more astounded by the lack of media towards this. I honestly doubt anyone wants America to do bad. I just think it is a reflection of the bad decisions by BHO and Pelosi.
    This is tunnel vision IMO. Did you see my WSJ post today on 30 years of subsidized risk?

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    This is tunnel vision IMO. Did you see my WSJ post today on 30 years of subsidized risk?
    The average American is incapable of making such connections when it comes to politics, governance, and economics. Either the current presidential administration has it entirely right, or entirely wrong, and is either entirely responsible, or not, for the current economic situation that predominates across the land. Not to mention that the Federal Reserve is a non-en y to them.

    Perhaps this is why the two political parties fail to offer substantively different actual governance. Sure, politicians play lip service to certain guiding "principles." But both sides seem to be rather close ideologically, at least at the national level.

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    what would the Magic Negro Lynchers here have done differently, politcally achievable, facing the obstructionist-at-any-cost Repugs, to fix the jobs problem by now?

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    While America Burned, the Repug Neros made nasty, bloody-minded filibuster politics and let 200K Americans go without unemployment

    " ...Democrats only had to break three separate filibusters in the Senate to get this passed! The first filibuster was broken by a vote of 87-13, the second by a vote of 85-2, and the third by a vote of 97-1. The fourth and final vote, the one to actually pass the bill, was 98-0. Elapsed time: five weeks for a bill that everyone ended up voting for.

    Why? Because even though Republicans were allowed to tack on a tax cut to the bill as the price of getting it passed, they decided to filibuster anyway unless they were also allowed to include an anti-ACORN amendment. Seriously. A bit of ACORN blustering to satisfy the Palin-Beck crowd is the reason they held up a bill designed to help people who are out of work in the deepest recession since World War II.... That's called taking governing seriously, my friends."

    http://www.alternet.org/module/print...788/?type=blog

    mother ing Repugs, " Americans, let them eat nothing, we're gonna get Acorn for registering 1 million+ Dem-voting poor people."

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    This person has 253 posts to your 47,280, so maybe he gets more work done than you.

    Why are you so ing obsessed about people posting from work?

    Are you posting from work?
    I think Chumpy said he only works part-time. That is all he needs to do. Yes he is OBSESSED with people who post from a job. He thinks it helps with all his questions he ask us. He is a ing weirdo.

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    I think Chumpy said he only works part-time. That is all he needs to do. Yes he is OBSESSED with people who post from a job. He thinks it helps with all his questions he ask us. He is a ing weirdo.
    I think that's all he has to do in his momma's basement.

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    I think that's all he has to do in his momma's basement.
    Man, we are going to get alot of questions when he gets back.

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    well last time unemployment was this high RONNY was the president and that worked out ok.....I guess the GOP will be voted democrat next election.

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    Nah, it's fun to see everyone ing about jobs and lazy people, etc. while they are sitting on their asses at work posting on a message board.

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    I think that's all he has to do in his momma's basement.
    My mother is dead and there aren't many basements in south central Texas.

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    The average American is incapable of making such connections when it comes to politics, governance, and economics. Either the current presidential administration has it entirely right, or entirely wrong, and is either entirely responsible, or not, for the current economic situation that predominates across the land. Not to mention that the Federal Reserve is a non-en y to them.

    Perhaps this is why the two political parties fail to offer substantively different actual governance. Sure, politicians play lip service to certain guiding "principles." But both sides seem to be rather close ideologically, at least at the national level.
    The average american is alot smarter and has much more common sense than you give them credit. They are also a little more educated to our history than you presume.

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    Nah, it's fun to see everyone ing about jobs, etc. while they are sitting on their asses at work posting on a message board.
    What makes you think everyone who is ing about jobs is posting from work? Aww it. Nice to see you have an opinion.

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    The average american is alot smarter and has much more common sense than you give them credit. They are also a little more educated to our history than you presume.
    This board is evidence to the contrary. People on both sides deliberately lie to maintain a consistent ideology. That's the only thing that is important.

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    My mother is dead and there aren't many basements in south central Texas.
    It's safe to assume that a momma joke doesn't actually involve that person's actual mother. What is this the 90's?

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    What makes you think everyone who is ing about jobs is posting from work? Aww it. Nice to see you have an opinion.
    Everyone is such a pussy about admitting they are posting from work like you, so it's easy to come to that conclusion.

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