Making Health Care Worse

[ChumpDumper]

Pelosi could put it on the internet for 72 hours (even though she didn't)

It's there. Couldn't tell you how long it's been up. The date on the do ent is 10/30.

I don't think you would read it in any case. Your avoidance of the question tells me you have never read an entire bill of any length.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I agree and think this needs to be fixed. I think the idea that we just have to accept that laws are worded, created and processed without our understanding is ridiculous. We both do not know people who read the entire bill of anything, but I bet we do know people who are disgusted by the things that are paid for from a bill, and we don't find out about it until a book or investigative reporter does something on it.




That is the thing. WHen the 2k pg bill(b4 they added 900 pages) came out, we all agreed that we wouldn't say anything about it until analyzers whom we trusted their opinion would bring up. Had it been written shorter and more understandable I imagine we would read it. Pelosi could put it on the internet for 72 hours (even though she didn't) and we still wouldn't read it because there is no way people with jobs, families and a life(posting on ST) have that kind of time( I believe the parties do this on purpose). So we cannot talk about what is in the bill as effectively because we do not know what is in the bill. I think the highway bill to create the highway system was 20 something pages. Why can't we do that. A metaphor for this would be right now we are in Windows, and we need to be open source.

so the ing your side was doing complaining about not having enough time to read the bill they were just being hypocrites.... now you say, no one reads them anyway...

[jack sommerset]

We don't have the money to pay for this. It really is sad. Hopefully 2010-2012 we can reverse whatever these idiots up.

[spursncowboys]

It's there. Couldn't tell you how long it's been up. The date on the do ent is 10/30.

I don't think you would read it in any case. Your avoidance of the question tells me you have never read an entire bill of any length.

No I answered the question you asked. Now I am waiting for you to answer my question.

[spursncowboys]

so the ing your side was doing complaining about not having enough time to read the bill they were just being hypocrites.... now you say, no one reads them anyway...

Look up cognition. Don't even read my posts troll. I challenge you to read 2000 pages of anything in 72 hours.

[spursncowboys]

It's there. Couldn't tell you how long it's been up. The date on the do ent is 10/30.

I don't think you would read it in any case. Your avoidance of the question tells me you have never read an entire bill of any length.

Do you have a link? I doubt it was the final bill. The original 2000 pages was a draft.

[ChumpDumper]

No I answered the question you asked. Now I am waiting for you to answer my question.

Couldn't say. I'm sure there are myriad legal issues that have to be addressed in bills like the health care one. No one likes legalese, but there is reason to be precise. My main issue is that no one, including Sowell, is even debating anything in the bill anymore. It seems the opposition doesn't really care to know what is in the bill and would rather spend their time building straw men and complaining that reading is stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have a link? I doubt it was the final bill. The original 2000 pages was a draft.

http://www.rules.house.gov/

[George Gervin's Afro]

Look up cognition. Don't even read my posts troll. I challenge you to read 2000 pages of anything in 72 hours.

the bill has been out longer than 72 hours hypocrite... You litter this board with your ingorance and pettiness. I'll keep reminding you what a hypocrite you are..

[baseline bum]

so the ing your side was doing complaining about not having enough time to read the bill they were just being hypocrites.... now you say, no one reads them anyway...

You're asking spursncowboys to read a bill when he doesn't even read the articles he copies and pastes here?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Do you have a link? I doubt it was the final bill. The original 2000 pages was a draft.

hey dummy have you started reading the bill yet?

[spursncowboys]

the bill has been out longer than 72 hours hypocrite... You litter this board with your ingorance and pettiness. I'll keep reminding you what a hypocrite you are..

In doing so, you remind us all how stupid you are.

[exstatic]

In doing so, you remind us all how stupid you are.

You don't have to.

[Wild Cobra]

Look up cognition. Don't even read my posts troll. I challenge you to read 2000 pages of anything in 72 hours.

Especially when you have to reference other material to see what is being changed, added, or deleted.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Especially when you have to reference other material to see what is being changed, added, or deleted.

So you guys aren't going to read it?

[spursncowboys]

So you guys aren't going to read it?

Must be nice to live with your mom and not have a job.

[spursncowboys]

You don't have to.

[coyotes_geek]

So you guys aren't going to read it?

How much of the bill have you read?

[ChumpDumper]

No one here is going to read it even if it was 200 pages.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No one here is going to read it even if it was 200 pages.

But the lack of transperancy is overwhelming!

[spursncowboys]

But the lack of transperancy is overwhelming!

Main Entry: trans·par·ent
Pronunciation: \tran(t)s-ˈper-ənt\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin transparent-, transparens, present participle of transparēre to show through, from Latin trans- + parēre to show oneself
Date: 15th century
1 a (1) : having the property of transmitting light without appreciable scattering so that bodies lying beyond are seen clearly : pellucid (2) : allowing the passage of a specified form of radiation (as X-rays or ultraviolet light) b : fine or sheer enough to be seen through : diaphanous
2 a : free from pretense or deceit : frank b : easily detected or seen through : obvious c : readily understood d : characterized by visibility or accessibility of information especially concerning business practices
synonyms see clear
— trans·par·ent·ly adverb
— trans·par·ent·ness noun

[George Gervin's Afro]

Main Entry: trans·par·ent
Pronunciation: \tran(t)s-ˈper-ənt\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin transparent-, transparens, present participle of transparēre to show through, from Latin trans- + parēre to show oneself
Date: 15th century
1 a (1) : having the property of transmitting light without appreciable scattering so that bodies lying beyond are seen clearly : pellucid (2) : allowing the passage of a specified form of radiation (as X-rays or ultraviolet light) b : fine or sheer enough to be seen through : diaphanous
2 a : free from pretense or deceit : frank b : easily detected or seen through : obvious c : readily understood d : characterized by visibility or accessibility of information especially concerning business practices
synonyms see clear
— trans·par·ent·ly adverb
— trans·par·ent·ness noun

so you being a dumbass makes the bill not trasnparent? If you can't read the language it's not Congress' fault.