Yes he did..
Maybe JMM should stop kissing the canvas and he'd win one "officially". To me both fight could have easily gone either way. Some rounds i had for Marquez while my friends had for Pacquiao, and vice versa. Thats how good and close the fight was. All the fighter can do is control the technical points...which in Marquez's case, the fact that he loses points by getting knocked down (4 times total) and the fact that he cant do the same to Pacquiao afftected his scores.
He knocked him down 3 times and the fight was a draw... that tells you he was outboxed by Marquez. He still won the fight in 2008.
It tells me that Marquez won more rounds but got points deducted because of knockdowns. 2008 tells me that the fight was very close and could have gone either way based on perception..probably could have been a Marquez win if he didnt get knocked down. Once again...stop kissing the canvas and maybe you'll win one.
Also, the boxing record shows he didnt win the fight in 2008.
Last edited by TheMACHINE; 11-24-2009 at 12:48 AM.
JMM did enough to get the win in 2008. Manny and Roach were thrilled to get out of there with a win and thanked their stars he was whipped by Floyd so they never have to fight JMM again.. I mean look at some of this press row scoring of that fight..Also, the boxing record shows he didnt win the fight in 2008.
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez
and based on those scores, it looked like a fight that can go either way. I bet if we look at those 114-113 scores, they would have different wins in different rounds. The rounds wernt as clear cut compared to lets say Pacman/Cotto where a majority gave rounds 1 and 5 to Cotto...then some even gave round 10.
BTW..if Pacman and Marquez fight now, you think Marquez would win?
No Manny would win now because i think JMM has took too much damage but heading into the Floyd fight there was still talk of another fight with them a fight I doubt Manny wanted any part of.. And yes the scores are close but when that many people score it close for one guy something is not right.
i guess ive just seen more "WTF judge scoring" fights that got me puzzled. Dont get me wrong, that was a sigh of relief, I didnt know who was going to win. But in no way am i going to be crying robbery for a close and awesome fight like that one. Now when i was watching Vera two weeks ago...that got me going 'WTF!" lol
get it done
this needs to happen but Mayweather is a coward
yahoo says they are close to a deal for March 13th
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