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    I'm not sure about acid - a lot of people can't handle acid, it's too much of a mind for them. I've seen people go really crazy on acid.
    If only you knew acid, like I knew acid!!!

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    Everyone has their hand in the war-on-drugs cookie barrel, that's why it won't be legalized...

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    This country would be so much better with legalized weed and acid.
    Peyote and Shrooms are just as good. Peyote might even cure some forms of cancer. Not to mention alcholism.


    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyote

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    Dried Lophophora williamsii slices ("Peyote Buttons")
    Chemical structure of mescaline, the primary psychoactive compound in peyoteThe effective dose for mescaline is 200–500 mg, equivalent to about 5 g of dried peyote.[8] The effects last about 10 to 12 hours.[9] When combined with appropriate set and setting, peyote is reported to trigger states of deep introspection and insight that have been described as being of a metaphysical or spiritual nature. At times, these can be accompanied by rich visual or auditory effects (see synesthesia).

    In addition to psychoactive use, Native Americans used the plant for its curative properties. They employed peyote to treat such varied ailments as toothache, pain in childbirth, fever, breast pain, skin diseases, rheumatism, diabetes, colds, and blindness. The U.S. Dispensatory lists peyote under the name Anhalonium, and states it can be used in various preparations for neurasthenia, hysteria and asthma. Screening for antimicrobial activity of peyote extracts in various solvents showed positive microbial inhibition. The principal antibiotic agent, a water-soluble crystalline substance separated from an ethanol extract of the plant, was given the name peyocactin.[10]

    In the same study, mice were used for preliminary animal toxicity tests and protection studies to determine the degree of the inhibitory action of peyocactin against normally fatal infections with the bacterium Staphylococcus aureus. In every case, the mice that had been given a peyocactin extract survived, while those in the control group died within 60 hours after infection. Peyocactin proved effective against 18 strains of penicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, several other bacteria, and a fungus.[10]



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    A 2005 paper published in Biological Psychiatry outlines research into peyote use conducted by Dr. John Halpern. He found that peyote users scored significantly better than non-users on the "general positive affect" and "psychological well-being" measures of the Rand Mental Health Inventory (RMHI), a standard instrument used to diagnose psychological problems and determine overall mental health. By contrast, alcohol abusers did significantly worse than the comparison group (non-users) in all measures of the RMHI. [11]

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    I haven't had peyote since maybe 1980. Great stuff though, and another one of God's natural gifts to us.

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    I hated Ecstacy when I tried it. LSD by contrast is by far the most fun thing I have ever taken.
    I'm not referring to "ecstacy", which is the street name for the drug but often doesn't contain MDMA at all. I've never met anyone who's had real MDMA and not enjoyed the out of it.

    If only you knew acid, like I knew acid!!!
    Oh, I know... problem is, you've gotta have a strong head not to get ed up by that . I've seen people who weren't ready for it wig out. Not a light trip.

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    That's a lotta dimp...


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    That has to be wrong. Oregon should be somewhere between California and Washington, and I don't mean geographically!
    And some of the best came from there too!

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    I'm not referring to "ecstacy", which is the street name for the drug but often doesn't contain MDMA at all. I've never met anyone who's had real MDMA and not enjoyed the out of it.
    Now you have. I hate stimulants.

    Peyote and Shrooms are just as good. Peyote might even cure some forms of cancer. Not to mention alcholism.
    I've never had either, but have always wanted to try peyote.

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    Too much time on his hands. And I bet he has lots of cheetos in his house.

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    I've been keeping count too, having just smoked #74,712

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    I'd just like the freedom to grow a couple of northern lights #5 plants and a couple of afghani kush plants in my own home to cultivate and use. It's satisfying to see the fruits of your labor and enjoy.

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    lsd and me were best friends in '98. some of the most memorable times of my life.

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    Now you have. I hate stimulants.



    I've never had either, but have always wanted to try peyote.
    Members of the Native American Church can consume it legally. It's a good plant. Shrooms IMHO, are potentially much stronger than LSD or Peyote.

    Just about every major civilization in history used Shrooms.


    There is a cave painting that is 12000 or so years old in Sub-Saharan Africa that shows a hallucinogenic shroom...and the 10k BC date is important, as that is pretty much the exact same point in our history when agriculture first appeared(albeit not in the exact same location). I personally don't think it's a coincidence...

    IMO, just about every plant alkaloid raises your conciousness in one way or another...not always in a good way(like nightshade or datura), but they definitely raise it.


    That said...

    Zero deaths in all of human history due to THC overdose.
    Zero deaths due to LSD overdose.
    Zero deaths due Psilocybin overdose.
    1 death in all human history due to Mescaline OD(and it was due to the vomiting, not a toxic amount of mescaline ingestion).


    None of them are physically or psychologically addictive either.

    None of them(aside from LSD) have been shown to have any long term side effects either).

    Anyone so inlclined can stack those figures up against alcohol and see what a true joke our drug policy is.

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    10000 year old evidence of marijuan usage in China:


    2700 year old marijuana stash found also in China(grown specifically for consumption and no other reason):

    http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/544684

    Peyote usage 10000 years ago:

    http://www.shroomery.org/6228/The-ol...s-in-the-World

    Evidence the Greeks drank ergot wine:

    http://csp.org/chrestomathy/road_to3.html

    Don't even get me started on the Olmecs and Mayans...these guys took biochemistry to a level beyond genius IMHO. For example, feeding drugs the human system couldn't truly metabolize to ducks and then consuming the ducks liver once it had been converted into a more absorbable form.


    Marijuana usage by Christians:

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Jesus_use_drugs


    Not the best article concerning Jesus though, as there is substantial evidence that marijuana usage was common in reiguous use among jews at the time of the birth of Christ...

    In fact, it was burned as incense duruing the annointment of Jewish babies at that time.



    You see there is no advanced culture at the dawn of mankind that did not both have both spiritual beliefs and ritual usage of plant alkaloids. It's part of who we are...IMO, it's part of evolution from day 1, up until the last 100 years.

    And that includes the United States of America, which probably used more different plants than any other culture previously on this planet outside of maybe the Mayans.

    In 1930 we were divorced from these plants unceremoniously...and we are given two of the most dangerous recreational drugs(alcohol and tobacco) in their stead.

    That's not including the absolute we get from doctors as th eir subsitute either.


    IMO, there is no way you can understand the spiritual concepts that began thousands of years ago without also using the plants they were using. For they do indeed elevate your conciousness and awareness higher.

    So as true spirituality dies the world over and we are given Paxil and whatever the latest is they give us(for a fee) ,...that's something to keep in mind.

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    i once passed whottt a joint and he slapped it out if my hand and started crying about the police and hugging trees and brain damage

    ...wait that was timvp

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    I once passed mookie a bag of weed and got back a different bag of weed.

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    Shrooms IMHO, are potentially much stronger than LSD or Peyote.
    i don't know if i would agree... lsd has taken me farther from this reality and myself then any other drug i have done.

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    Now you have. I hate stimulants.
    See, that's why I don't think what you had had MDMA in it. Although its name suggests it's a stimulant, and to some extent it is, MDMA is nothing like meth or other amphetamines - the extra methyl groups must change its biochemical properties significantly. There is a rush, but it's not an energy drug, it's far more of a euphoric.

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    Marijuana usage by Christians:

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Jesus_use_drugs


    Not the best article concerning Jesus though, as there is substantial evidence that marijuana usage was common in reiguous use among jews at the time of the birth of Christ...

    In fact, it was burned as incense duruing the annointment of Jewish babies at that time.

    where do you think the burning bush came from?

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