Spurs are obviously better without Parker.

[jjktkk]

Anybody on this website who thinks the Spurs are better without Tony Parker, also probably thinks Spurstalk is a on-line shopping site for old western antiques.

[HarlemHeat37]

He had a great game tonight, he still looks a little slow to me though..hopefully he continues to perform well, we need him to perform like a true #1/1a option every night..

[Solid D]

but it is easy to put up big stats against gs just ask yourself

I've asked myself and I concur with myself.

[timvp]

he's getting raped by Ellis.

Uh, Ellis was primarily guarded by Bogans and Hill. He got the majority of his points against Hill.

[Solid D]

Uh, Ellis was primarily guarded by Bogans and Hill. He got the majority of his points against Hill.

...and the other Ellis scores again.

[timvp]

...and the other Ellis scores again.

44 . . .

[Whisky Dog]

Kill yourself.

This dude is the new Tpark.

[Admidave50]

TP, bring back Beno!

[jag]

I'm waiting for this again...

I think the problem is actually with Parker. With Parker in the game at the same time, Jefferson is much less effective. I'd like to see more running, also. Another thing would be to possibly run those same plays where Finley comes off screens for Jefferson. Another thing would be to maybe run some plays that are set for RJ to cut to the basket like maybe a backdoor play. Posting him up works only when Duncan is either at the high post or out of the game. Like timvp said, his cutting lanes aren't open right now, so the spurs need to find a way to get him going, and get him going early.

Because TP can be somewhat of a ballhog on the break and decides he's the only player on the court. When he does pass the ball, there isn't an opportunity for his teammates to make a play, it's too late. He's not used to having guys running out there with him. Hopefully that will change. A good fastbreak game could be very dangerous.

[duhoh]

and you're obviously re ed for saying something this smart

[Bukefal]

Parker is the best we have. I dont get the hate some have on him. Is it because he is French? Is it because he enjoys playing for his country too?

[sonic21]

Parker is a ballhog and France sucks

[Brazil]

Great game by TP, now he needs to recover his consistency: one game he is very good, the other is bad etc... we need 4-5 games in a row with a steady performance. Last night I thought he passed the ball well.

[Chieflion]

Great game by TP, now he needs to recover his consistency: one game he is very good, the other is bad etc... we need 4-5 games in a row with a steady performance. Last night I thought he passed the ball well.

This. He gets one good game, and completely mails it in the next game. No one knows what is wrong with him. He says he is healthy so no one knows what is going on. Luckily, when he does not show up, someone on the team steps up and bails his ty performance out. Had we lost to the Bucks, he would get criticised and get run down by Spurstalkers until the next game.

[Spurs Brazil]

I think TP played well yesterday. He got a lot of open lanes and attack, that's what he needed to do

He played well for the whole game. It seems like he's get his rhythm back

[romain.star]

This. He gets one good game, and completely mails it in the next game. No one knows what is wrong with him. He says he is healthy so no one knows what is going on. Luckily, when he does not show up, someone on the team steps up and bails his ty performance out. Had we lost to the Bucks, he would get criticised and get run down by Spurstalkers until the next game.

yeah it is not as if he was a 27 years old 3 times allstar who has contributed to 3 rings... he is a spurs legend who gained the right to have a few ty games without being involved in lame ST trade talks. Same goes with Manu

[spurspokesman]

I think Tony Parker is great. His issue has been a longstanding one of knowing when to score and when to distribute. I agree with Sean Elliott who said that Tony will benefit everyone knowing that he doesn't have to do it all himself. It will save the wear on him and get everyone in a flow.

I'd rather have a team that has 5 guys averaging double figures or real close than always have to rely on 2 or 3 primary scorers.

But ever since TP came into the league and established himself, he's been my favorite PG in the league.

Spot on. But I have to agree that even though he's a beast and a great player he doesn't really know how to create for others ala paul or kidd or billups etc. He's a score first attack player and with the way the spurs are built now that can be a detriment.

[Josepatches_]

Of course TP can score 30-40 or even 50 points every night.

But is that what we need? or it's better the ball movement and to have 4 or 5 players with 10+ points.

IMO the ball 80% of the time in tony's hand make us worse than we could be as team.Tony going bigger but Hill,RJ,Mason,Bonner,Manu,Fin... going smaller.And with that kind of play we aren't enough good to pass the first round last year and we weren't enough good to face the Lakers 2 years ago.

But the Warriors suck in the paint so yesterday Tony was right.He has to learn every game is not the same and this year we didn't have 20+ from him very night.

[lotr1trekkie]

The beauty of this team is that every nite someone different is going to have a big nite and carry the team. TP is one of the elite PG's in the league. He will adjust his game to whatever the team needs him to do. Would you rather have AI or his reincarnation Brandon Jennings ---25 ppg and 25 shots! When Manu gets back the picture will become clear. It's like a guy having 3 really hot chicks to date and only 2 days to work with. One must be creative.

[Cry Havoc]

This dude is the new Tpark.

I'm intolerant of idiotic asshats trying to give a basketball opinion.

Great game by TP, now he needs to recover his consistency: one game he is very good, the other is bad etc... we need 4-5 games in a row with a steady performance. Last night I thought he passed the ball well.

He's been injured. You try to play a sport predicated on speed and athleticism while hurt and see how you do.

This. He gets one good game, and completely mails it in the next game. No one knows what is wrong with him. He says he is healthy so no one knows what is going on. Luckily, when he does not show up, someone on the team steps up and bails his ty performance out. Had we lost to the Bucks, he would get criticised and get run down by Spurstalkers until the next game.

He's been injured. He still isn't 100% and he dominated the Warriors last night.

Sorry you think he's "mailing it in". Care to elaborate on this? I have never, EVER seen Tony give less than a total effort in a game, but would you rather him hurt himself attempting to get a few points that really won't matter in 6 months?

Of course TP can score 30-40 or even 50 points every night.

But is that what we need? or it's better the ball movement and to have 4 or 5 players with 10+ points.

Sorry, should he pass the ball more? OH WAIT he had seven assists.

IMO the ball 80% of the time in tony's hand make us worse than we could be as team.

Are you familiar with the concept of a "Point Guard"?

Tony going bigger but Hill,RJ,Mason,Bonner,Manu,Fin... going smaller.And with that kind of play we aren't enough good to pass the first round last year and we weren't enough good to face the Lakers 2 years ago.

Yes. Because Fin and Mason have been stellar performers when given the ball this year. Parker led everyone in assists last night, and there were SIX Spurs in double figures.

But the Warriors suck in the paint so yesterday Tony was right.He has to learn every game is not the same and this year we didn't have 20+ from him very night.

We need 20+ from him on nights when he can score at over 55% of the time he shoots. That's not production you scoff at -- Kobe typically doesn't score with that kind of efficiency.

Tony went for 32 4 and 7 last night on 55.5% shooting with just 3 TOs (over a 2 dime/TO ratio) and 2 steals with a +11, and there are still Spurs fans on this site ripping him.

I seriously don't get it. It has to racism, or jealousy, or perhaps the fact that before Tony the Spurs haven't had a HoF caliber guard since Gervin, so maybe our fans just don't really know what the one of the top guards in the league is supposed to look like and it scares them.

[Chieflion]

You are telling Tony is not at 100% but he still tries his best every game. Last I checked, he said he was fine and the training staff let him play. Injuries are therefore not an excuse. What about that Bucks performance? Everyone thought Parker would do well against Jennings but he played awful basketball, and chucked up bad shots. He lit up the Warriors who have almost no legs for 30 points and played well today. Credit has to be given for that. I would not be suprised to see Parker fail against the Houston defense next game because the Bucks played good defense on Parker and the Rockets also play good defense. Until he can put in 3 consecutive solid games and shows signs he could carry the team consistently, there is still going to be criticism whether he has 3 rings or not. Only because he is the team's best offensive player and contenders cannot have leading players who play like Jordan one night and Stevenson on another. I am not even talking about the Warriors game in general, I am sure he dominated against the piss poor Warriors. Until he plays like he does against the Warriors against a solid defensive team, don't crown him prematurely.

[Cry Havoc]

You are telling Tony is not at 100% but he still tries his best every game. Last I checked, he said he was fine and the training staff let him play. Injuries are therefore not an excuse. What about that Bucks performance? Everyone thought Parker would do well against Jennings but he played awful basketball, and chucked up bad shots. He lit up the Warriors who have almost no legs for 30 points and played well today. Credit has to be given for that. I would not be suprised to see Parker fail against the Houston defense next game because the Bucks played good defense on Parker and the Rockets also play good defense. Until he can put in 3 consecutive solid games and shows signs he could carry the team consistently, there is still going to be criticism whether he has 3 rings or not. Only because he is the team's best offensive player and contenders cannot have leading players who play like Jordan one night and Stevenson on another. I am not even talking about the Warriors game in general, I am sure he dominated against the piss poor Warriors. Until he plays like he does against the Warriors against a solid defensive team, don't crown him prematurely.

Yeah, you're right. He's never had 3 good games in a row in his career before.

[Chieflion]

Yeah, you're right. He's never had 3 good games in a row in his career before.

Obviously, I was talking about this season.

[Cry Havoc]

Obviously, I was talking about this season.

Obviously, he has been playing hurt this season.

[Interrohater]

Until he plays like he does against the Warriors against a solid defensive team, don't crown him prematurely.

Crown him prematurely? Do you realize what you said? Dude has been in the Spurs organization for 8 years man, he's a Finals MVP, etc, etc. What's premature about admitting he's an amazing point guard and one of the best in the league?

To me, the problem here lies in perception. It's the same with an NFL quarterback, because he's the leader, he gets the glory and the blame.

Tony Parker has been nothing but great for the Spurs, we should all be able to agree on that. He's helped us win 3 championships. However, the "pure point guard" advocates are slow to accept him because he's a score-first pg. Now, the complaints are even stronger because we actually do have multiple weapons and Tony has the tendency to keep the ball and drive it for the score or the kickout.

Let's all agree that while the new guys have to learn the system, Tony still has to learn the new guys. Tony has been used to a certain style of play for the last few years. That's years. For him to just change it up at the drop of a hat is very difficult, if not impossible. Maybe the drive an kick isn't the best option. Maybe the pick and roll with Timmy might work better with RJ. Maybe instead of Tony running off the back door screens, Tony should be the one setting the screen for George. It goes on and on.

I disagree with the statement that Tony had a bad game against Milwaukee. He ran the offense and created for other people. He didn't look like he was forcing the issue, which accounts for his low scoring total. However, he was a pass-first pg that night, with 6 points and 6 assists. The Spurs won and he ran the offense. Regardless of his personal production, at the end of the day, the win is what's important.

While it's true that RJ struggles when Tony is on the court, I don't think that it's any cause for concern. Like I said, Tony is still learning and Pop will figure out a way to utilize both of these "first-option" guys while on the floor together.

Again, it's still early, and even in wins we would be benefited from remembering that it will take some time before we are firing on all cylinders. Which, by the way, should be a scary thought for the rest of the league.