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Based on what? That's bull . Really, I dont get the Parker bashing all the time. Like Jag said, it really is getting irritating.
Trade him for T-mac straight up. If T-mac returns to 50% form, it'll be worth it.
Based on what? That's bull . Really, I dont get the Parker bashing all the time. Like Jag said, it really is getting irritating.
based on pop's system drive and kick, TP drives and kicks and RJ shoots the three unless he can drive the lane sucessfully which he has yet able to do
15 mil is way too much for what they are using him for now. He should have more plays for him, and be more of a primary scoring option.
No body will pay for Jeff's contract-so he will be a Spurs player. I think he is making great passes and not clogging the lane slashing all the time. Staying out on the arc is perfect for him. I like his playing and think he should have more plays devoted toward him. Having him as a second option in the second string. IMO the best chemistry on the team is with Manu and Jeff.
There was a thread a week ago about how RJ can't play with TP and I feel that that is beginning to look like it's true.
they paid steve smith over 10 milion to sit on the bench and tell tp to bend his knees to shoot.
The Spurs continue to be at the bottom of the league in terms of pace. THere are only so many shots in a game and the number is decreased with a team that likes to walk it up the court like the Spurs.
Parker likes to run the one man fast break. Otherwise they run pick and rolls with TP and Duncan a lot.
Jefferson would thrive in a wide open offense like the Suns. The Spurs are too structured to make use of his talents in the open floor.
Thats my opinion, anyway.
None of this was foreseen by the great Lord Poppy ?
70 million contract and all of training camp.
The Stand n Veg offense is soo tired.
I just hope the same lame excuses aren't being used come playoff time.
All of this is true. Jefferson had no problem creating and scoring when Tony and Tim were out. I'd like to see him not some much one on one but in isolation pick and roles with Tim or McDyess.
And I totally agree with the idea of getting him the ball on the break. The guy can get over the defense and get fouled.
Anyone that's been watching all the games can see that this team is just now starting to come together. There were a lot of botched plays on offense that would have led to easy baskets. I look at those as a positive. I feel like the team just needs more time together to really get a good feel for each other. I also think they're going to improve with each upcoming game and expect them to go on a series of wins to end up with a really nice season record mostly due to how well the guys on the bench contribute.
I personally think our offense needs to change a bit to integrate RJ. How about designing or calling a few plays for him while he's out there? Like the one Pop calls for Finley with the J off the screen? Or Manu with the high pick?
If we're running pick and roll on the low post to death, unfortunately he's not going to have much impact at all, outside of being a spot up shooter.
I think the whole 'Duncan clogs the lane' argument is pretty re ed. Spacing is an issue if we're running pick and roll, but there's no reason why Duncan can't step out to the high post for a play or two if necessary. We do it all the time when we call plays for Manu to drive. Obviously, Manu plays the high post pick a roll a lot better than RJ, but TD is not the reason why.
I just don't think the Spurs really are spending $15 million for a spot up shooter. I mean, we already have plenty of those that make a lot less and score at a higher clip.
I trust Pop will figure it out sooner than later. I think we could be an offensive juggernaut if we manage to consistently get 15-20 from RJ every night.
I agree that it would be a good idea to run some plays for RJ, especially early on in the game to get him going. Last night against the small-ball Warriors he didn't post up once, if I remember correctly.
We don't want to make the same mistake as the Mavs, who have Jason Kidd but use him primarily as a spot-up shooter way too often. I also trust in Pop to figure that out and adjust our offense to having a player like RJ.
nah, if you think RJ needs the ball in his hands, imagine having T-Mac. he'd only be able to operate in iso situations, which would severely hurt the team if he isnt able to capitalize on those plays. which he probably wont be able to anymore since he seems like a broken player.
i think that RJ will be fine, he just needs to find his niche. he'd be much more effective in an uptempo offense, which obviously we don't have. call me crazy or re ed, but maybe pop should try moving him to the bench and put finley in the starting lineup. now i know finley has taken a step back in nearly every facet of his game besides shooting, but you could just give him his usual 15-20 mins a game. with RJ coming off the bench playing starter's minutes, you have an explosive 2nd unit (not that our bench hasnt already proved itself to be formidable) with Hill, Manu (when he comes back), RJ, Dejuan, and Dice or Bonner (depending on who pop feels like starting that day). that could be a lineup that could cause all sorts of problems for other teams. our starting lineup will still pack sufficient scoring punch with Tony, Bogans, Finley, Tim, and Dice/Bonner. It'd probably be best if Bonner started, that way you surround Tim with 2 perimeter shooters and 2 slashers (balanced offense that'd make for good spacing).
Suns fans are delusional.... Spurs are in the top 10 in scoring and average 80.5 shots a game. Suns average 82.3 shots a game. Suns are averaging less than 2 shots more than SA. That's not much to even mention. SA has scored 112 pts or more in 5 of their 13 games. They average more points than the Lakers right now... RJ is the 3rd leading scorer on the team and averages 1.37 PPS. That is tied for 2nd on the team with Duncan (That is more than Parker's 1.30). He is also averaging 4.8 rebs (4th on team), 3.1 assists (4th on team) and doesn't turn the ball over much.... And his defense is vastly improving. I think he is fitting in fine for someone who is trying to learn a new offensive and defensive system... He just needs time... I also agree that it wouldn't hurt to divide his time out between playing with starters and reserves...
you really want a chucker? i do not ever want to see a chucker in a spurs uniform.
Duncan, when not involved in the play, isn't likely to wander much further than halfway down the outside of the lane. At max, he'll pull out to the high post at the free throw line. This keeps his defender hoovering in the lane. Also, if Tim is in the lane when a guy starts in, he's not as likely to back out and spot up for a midrange shot.
Is that necessarily bad? No.He's an extremly effective player doing what he does. But it is if you're looking to give Jefferson more room to operate when driving in. He was effective with it when Tim was out because Mcdyess will a lot of times act as a swing man, passing the ball from the top of the key or even the three point line.
I'd like to keep going with Tim as the go-to guy when we want to isolate and go one on one. But when he's out of the game, Jefferson ought to be the Spurs next option if they're not running a team play.
I'm sorry, I guess what I wrote didn't quite come out right. What I mean is that Duncan being there doesn't mean you can't run a few plays for RJ where Duncan steps to the high post to set a pick for him, etc. We do that all the time at the end of games when Manu, Tony and Tim are all playing out there.
There's no reason we couldn't do the same thing for a couple of plays to get RJ going. I hope it's a little more clear now.
Its still November. Relax.
And Christmas is almost less than a month away.
I'd do it.
, I wanna say move him to the bench, but if so, who starts in his place? Do the Spurs try to get away with Bogans and Mason in the starting lineup? Perhaps start Hill/Parker/Bogans when Manu comes back and have him sub in for Hill?
I think there's a lot of combinations the Spurs can try, so we're probably gonna see a lot of crazy lineups this year.
Whats happen when they run him off screens? Is he a good quick release shooter like Rip?
I havent seen him play for a long time.
Way too slow of a release to be considered Richard Hamilton like. Throughout these few games, he has not made any off-ball movement that comes off screens and is usually standing in the corner. I wish sometimes Pop would call a play for RJ, just one.
RJ made a decision to join the Spurs for the hopes of playing for a contender. I'm not sure what the conversation was during those negotiations, but I would suspect it was made clear about what his role would entail prior to making his decision to join the Spurs.
I'm sure there is, if not already planned, to get Jefferson into the offensive scheme that better utelizes his abilities. In fact we've seen glimpses of what is to come when RJ is used in a different manner. As of right now we are seeing what the team is doing to get all the players acclimated which isn't going to showcase just RJ's talents at this point.
What to do with RJ?
Leave it as is until later when the team starts getting a better chemistry with a set rotation. I'm sure his strengths will be used appropriately and at the right moments when that starts to happen.
What the are you talking about? RJ never made the decision to come here, he was not a free agent. The Spurs traded Thomas, Bowen, and Oberto for him. He had no say in the matter.
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