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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    Look luva respect your passion...but how did MJ and Pipp and Isiah etc not make him better? All he had to do ...eSPECIALLY on bulls was rebound and take some flop charges? They did not need his scoring. Now he was a pretty good passer in teh triangle and a ...great rebounder and provided energy those are valuable and maybe they are even HOF worthy ...but if rodman was on crappy teams what value would he have? He was only valuable to elite teams because they allowed him the freedom to specialize on the boards... on other lessor teams his crappy FT shooting and poor offense would be detrimental ...I will say this YOUNG rodman showed some offensive game but he decided to not develop it ...
    Think he was great role player but ultimately not HOF worthy but the NBA one is easiest to get in to so maybe he should be in it.
    This applies to Bowen as well but at least he IMproved his 3pt shooting if not his Ft's ...

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    Complete player hitmanyr2k's Avatar
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    Vinne Johnson was the 6th man for the Pistons on most nights. Rebound numbers were skewed due to high possesion counts in the 80's ...
    Now his 90's numbers are more impressive because they were less possesions but teams were shooting worse ...
    Yes, i saw him play and of course he played a lot on the winning le teams beacuse Worthy was destroying their frontline ... against Portland he had to gaurd Drexler and Kersey ...yes I watched the Pistons I have been watching ball since 1980 ...

    My 6th man point was he was role player a great one but a role player still ...
    Lakers may have won les without Horry but no 3peat ...and I can argue Pistons and Bulls would of won without Rodman as well ...so what is your point? You dont think MJ & Pipp (who won before he got there) or Isiah and Dumars who were in ECF Rodman's rookie year and the year before ...would not of won without Rodman?! Seriously?
    The Bulls don't win the le in '96 and complete their 72-10 season without Rodman. '91 thru '93 they of course had Horace Grant and Cartwright to hold down the frontcourt. After Cartwright retired in '94 and Horace bolted for Orlando in '95 the Bulls were very soft in the middle. So soft that Pippen had to occasionally play the 4 spot defensively and was their leading rebounder in '95. Even when Jordan came back late in '95 Orlando exposed their lack of interior presence in the playoffs with Shaq and Horace killing them on the boards. That's the main reason the Bulls desperately sought Rodman in the offseason even after his wild episodes in San Antonio. They knew they weren't going to beat Orlando without toughness inside. Rodman provided tough defense and an infectious energy to the team. And he was a damn good passer in the system as well. The coaches and players were amazed at his b-ball IQ and how quick he picked up the offense and functioned inside it. He was also very instrumental in starting the Bulls fast break. Often he would get a rebound and quickly whip the ball to a player streaking up the floor. His offensive rebounding was huge for 2nd shots. It seemed everytime he hustled for an offensive rebound the Bulls players would want to make that 2nd shot to reward him for it. Similar to Pippen, Rodman had his way of putting his mark on the game without scoring.

  3. #28
    hold mah dick! duhoh's Avatar
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    I hope Scottie doesn't channel Jordan when making his HOF induction speech


    for sure, but at least he has a hot wife

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