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    If he is shipped to the Knicks, which is NOT going to happen during this season, by the way, and I know that perfectly well, he just won't play, say bye to the folks in the US and come to Europe.
    He can find 2-3 teams that hire him for 4 millions for the rest of the season.
    Euros, not dollars.

    The only way he could end up in NYC, actually, is as a free agent, if
    1) Cleveland looses the le, hence James goes to NYC.
    2) Cleveland wins and NYC gets Wade AND Bosh. In that case, he is interested and the Knicks are interested.
    Ginobili is not tempted by Europe as much as you think. He loves the high level of compe ion that's on the NBA, and if he thinks he can still compete at this level and there's interest by a contending team, I think he'll take less money to stay.

    This whole thing is irrelevant though. The Spurs should try to get something for Manu's expiring contract if they think he can't help them anymore and don't think they'll be able to resign him. It just makes business sense.

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    We don't need huge games from Ginobili once out of every 5 or 10. We need consistent, high level play. I really hope he is still capable of such a thing. It would go a long way for the Spurs.
    In the worst game Ginobili ever played his entire life, he was 0-8 and zero (0) points untill the very last minute.

    He then scored 3 miserable Free throws.

    His team won by 3. Those FTs.

    His team won he championship.


    When you happen to get a Ginobili, you just don't trade a guy that could still win you a championship at 45.
    Spurs are not built that way.

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    Those FT's did not win the Spurs the le. All of the other guys doing work to get to that point did as well as Gino.

    I agree that it is great to have a guy that can struggle yet still be there in the end, but if Gino is not capable of playing consistent, high-level ball anymore, then the Spurs have not shot at winning.

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    Ginobili is not tempted by Europe as much as you think. He loves the high level of compe ion that's on the NBA, and if he thinks he can still compete at this level and there's interest by a contending team, I think he'll take less money to stay.

    This whole thing is irrelevant though. The Spurs should try to get something for Manu's expiring contract if they think he can't help them anymore and don't think they'll be able to resign him. It just makes business sense.
    Absolutely, he will take less money to stay.
    Money is not a big issue here.
    But it has to be an elite team.
    He is simply not interested in loosers.
    Never been.

    If he feels he cannot make an impact in the NBA anymore,
    he'd rather be on a Euroleague contender,
    rather on a bad NBA team.
    He actually mentioned that several times.
    He is no Udrih or Nesterovic.

    This is why there are no talks for a contract.
    Yes, SA is unsure whether he is still a force.
    BUT, he wants to make sure that the Spurs, as a team, will be contenders.

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    Absolutely, he will take less money to stay.
    Money is not a big issue here.
    But it has to be an elite team.
    He is simply not interested in loosers.
    Never been.

    If he feels he cannot make an impact in the NBA anymore,
    he'd rather be on a Euroleague contender,
    rather on a bad NBA team.
    He actually mentioned that several times.
    He is no Udrih or Nesterovic.

    This is why there are no talks for a contract.
    Yes, SA is unsure whether he is still a force.
    BUT, he wants to make sure that the Spurs, as a team, will be contenders.
    Sure, but we're getting ahead of ourselves here though. If the Spurs think he's still valuable, they'll make an offer for an extension. If they don't, they'll trade him. At the moment, that's all the options on the table.
    If he happens to get traded, then it's outside of the Spurs control where he goes from there. But they Spurs got something in return, and that's all it matters.

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    Of course Manu is lacking confidence! People have analyzed the way he plays and our team has said to be dependent on his health. We have not yet offered him an extension (or whatever the technical term is) and he knows that that extension will be based on his ability to stay healthy. When he was younger he never had to really wonder about how his basketball play could lead to the breakdown of his body. Now he does, and he has to not only play basketball in the best league in the world, he also has to stay consciously aware of the risks of his style of play. He is in a crisis of confidence because he has to think of the dilemma between playing well (but putting his body at risk), or playing mediocre (and maintaining his health).

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    Of course Manu is lacking confidence! People have analyzed the way he plays and our team has said to be dependent on his health. We have not yet offered him an extension (or whatever the technical term is) and he knows that that extension will be based on his ability to stay healthy. When he was younger he never had to really wonder about how his basketball play could lead to the breakdown of his body. Now he does, and he has to not only play basketball in the best league in the world, he also has to stay consciously aware of the risks of his style of play. He is in a crisis of confidence because he has to think of the dilemma between playing well (but putting his body at risk), or playing mediocre (and maintaining his health).
    It couldn't have been better said

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    That's weird that Manu has a confidence issue. He's a gold medal and nba champion and one of the best guards in the league and the spurs spent a load of money to retool to win another le and he's back healthy he should have a load of confidence you don't see Kobe Bryant having a issue with his confidence and he's been injured a of a lot more than Manu.
    Don't compare Bryant to Manu. Manu is not even close to being in the same class as a player. Manu is inconsistent, injury prone, doesn't play the minutes that true stars play and has only one all star appearance, way overrated on this site.

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    lol at manu being overrated on this site, and kobe bryant speaks so highly of manu and kobe said on his show he had on espn that manu ginobili was his biggest compe or. when manu was young the dude was a force to be reckond with, ive seen this guy do moves that i have never seen from any player.

    manu loves the game and hes going to work hard to get back to what he was its just going to be time, the spurs are in no rush, watch come march and into the playoffs, he'll be back.

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    lol at manu being overrated on this site, and kobe bryant speaks so highly of manu and kobe said on his show he had on espn that manu ginobili was his biggest compe or. when manu was young the dude was a force to be reckond with, ive seen this guy do moves that i have never seen from any player.

    manu loves the game and hes going to work hard to get back to what he was its just going to be time, the spurs are in no rush, watch come march and into the playoffs, he'll be back.
    I heard the same thing last year at this time.

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    damm what a weak mind player
    time to trade him now
    a player is worthless with no confidence
    pick are better then a player with no confidence

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    damm what a weak mind player
    time to trade him now
    a player is worthless with no confidence
    pick are better then a player with no confidence
    We should trade Tony, since we can probably get better value for him now...

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    tp would get more love any where else
    spur fans hate him because he is not speak spanish

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    Don't compare Bryant to Manu. Manu is not even close to being in the same class as a player. Manu is inconsistent, injury prone, doesn't play the minutes that true stars play and has only one all star appearance, way overrated on this site.
    No Manu = No Championship... nothing overrated about that...

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    tp would get more love any where else
    spur fans hate him because he is not speak spanish
    Is that a fact?
    And how would you know?

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    tp would get more love any where else
    spur fans hate him because he is not speak spanish
    LOL!!!

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    Ginobilli slowly losing his confidence together with losing his pate..

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    Of course Manu is lacking confidence! People have analyzed the way he plays and our team has said to be dependent on his health. We have not yet offered him an extension (or whatever the technical term is) and he knows that that extension will be based on his ability to stay healthy. When he was younger he never had to really wonder about how his basketball play could lead to the breakdown of his body. Now he does, and he has to not only play basketball in the best league in the world, he also has to stay consciously aware of the risks of his style of play. He is in a crisis of confidence because he has to think of the dilemma between playing well (but putting his body at risk), or playing mediocre (and maintaining his health).
    so its spurstalks fault, the fans fault or the front office's fault?

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    that airball by Manu was just heartbreaking..

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    ginobili for tmac is starting to look pretty good...

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    tp would get more love any where else
    spur fans hate him because he is not speak spanish
    So which one is it ducks? Do you hate TP or you're not a Spurs fan?

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    Manu isn't looking too good tonight.

    I hope he finds his rhythm soon, but I'm getting worried!

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    Every game that passes by Buford is pushing that extension check further and further away.

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    Sad to see Manu playing like that


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    the team, not only manu has the problem. RJ, RMJ, are not yet clicking, mcdyess is still lost, especially in the offensive end. manu having confidence problem, and the rust of not playing for a prolonged period. i believe the spurs will right the ship after several more games.

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