I think Manny was just being facetious.
He wasn't actually trying to win an argument by using Plato.
I am living proof that that statement is a ing lie. My brother and sister are also living proof that it is a ing lie. And I would guess that also goes for at least 50% or better of the class I graduated with.
That old "my parents were poor, therefore I have to be poor" mantra is just so much liberal bull that people like Obama preys on.
I get that.
Seriously, just trying to get some run out of a very expensive, 20 year old, liberal arts education.
My bride also runs counter to the premise (and she isn't just along for the ride; very successful in her own right.) Comes from a family on the dirt road side of a poor town.
I know one that is almost 40. He got laid off maybe 4 months ago and hasn't done a damn thing since then. He's actually bragged about "staying on welfare as long as I can". All over having some beers at a bar ............a couple of months into his unemployment. I want to thank everyone here for buying him his beers and food On his behalf. I have very little sympathy for him and for everyone like him.
""my parents were poor, therefore I have to be poor" mantra is just so much liberal bull "
your anecdotal "proof" is bull .
Upward mobility in America has greatly diminished since the 1970s. You could look it up, but you won't.
Breaking out off the lower classes, the manual labor/uneducated classes, is extremely difficult for the vast majority, not that you give a .
My neighbor used to come over and sell us bread and milk from wic for money for cigarrettes. i know, not the same thing as unemployment but wanted to say it. I personally don't have a problem with people using the resources given to them. It is only natural for them to try and find security. I have a problem with elitists using it to get elected and then if you are against it, you are heartless.
You shouldn't feel bad. It happens all the time. The government knows this. Again the choice to live substandard is a choice made by many (not all) receiving these (ahem) "benefits". But these programs have helped to cause the effect. Politicians living off the effect are the one's who keep it going. And of course you will be labeled as heartless. You are somebody who threatens their existence via the programs they continue to expand even though you try to help in your own way.
What should be done is allow people to keep receipts of charitable contributions and actions (time is money) and allow those contributions to be counted against what the government decides what should be our allotment of giving through their programs.
As it stands now...it's difficult for some to give extra to whom they would like to help because of what is already taken to give to who the government deems appropriate to receive.
70's huh?
Took just a little while for "The great society" to get up and running, I guess. Thanks for bolstering the OP.
Of course, those businesses wouldn't dream of passing on the cost to consumers...you know, Joe Blow taxpayer.
Hmm, as far as I remember Tocqueville isn't the author of that quote (although I've never read Tocqueville in English, so maybe he wrote something that could be translated more or less that way). He wrote similar things with the same meaning, but never phrased it that way.
Right, well, that is true.
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