Sox get Lackey; Phils deal for Halladay

[JMarkJohns]

angels are done. at least the dodgers have no compe ion in the nl west. their crap off-season still means a division le

What the are you talking about? Rockies will win the division, and the Giants are right there will the Rockies. Dodgers are looking at third, and, don't count out the Diamondbacks to get back into the Division race. Should Webb even be 80% of what he used to be (the most efficient pitcher in baseball, 1-time Cy Young, 2-time runner-up), and with the addition of Edwin Jackson, the Diamondbacks have a top-3 that could go deep into games and make them .500 compe ive. Upton and Reynolds are the core of the offense, but Jackson was .300-25-90 type the season prior, and is returning to their lineup. Their offense was finally starting to come around despite Jackson's absence, so they could be very compe ive with the Dodgers.

Not joking, dude, but the Dodgers are more than likely to finish third and very well could finish fourth.

[JMarkJohns]

there's something wrong when a guy who won the Cy Young award a little over a year ago has been traded twice in the last 6 months.

Agents... I've heard he wants CC money (23-25 mill per)...

[iggypop123]

What the are you talking about? Rockies will win the division, and the Giants are right there will the Rockies. Dodgers are looking at third, and, don't count out the Diamondbacks to get back into the Division race. Should Webb even be 80% of what he used to be (the most efficient pitcher in baseball, 1-time Cy Young, 2-time runner-up), and with the addition of Edwin Jackson, the Diamondbacks have a top-3 that could go deep into games and make them .500 compe ive. Upton and Reynolds are the core of the offense, but Jackson was .300-25-90 type the season prior, and is returning to their lineup. Their offense was finally starting to come around despite Jackson's absence, so they could be very compe ive with the Dodgers.

Not joking, dude, but the Dodgers are more than likely to finish third and very well could finish fourth.

after reading what you posted i stand by my statement

[JMarkJohns]

Ridiculously foolish... Colorado was a better team than the Dodgers by season's end and the Giants are young offensively but have shown some good potential. Dodgers haven't done jack... even the Diamondbacks basically add an two All-Star starters in Webb/Jackson and a .300-20-90 type of bat.

[iggypop123]

you are biased for a team and i am biased for a team. this will go nowhere, i will agree to disagree

[JMarkJohns]

I'm not biased for the Diamondbacks... I'm saying the Rockies are better than, that the Giants likely will be and the Diamondbacks could be as good as the Dodgers.

Throw out the first two months of last season and I believe the Dodgers finish third in the Division. That hot start won't happen again...

I would anticipate the order being Rockies (92 wins), Giants (88 wins), Dodgers (85 wins) and Diamondbacks (82 wins)...

But it wouldn't surprise me if the Dodgers fell behind the Diamondbacks considering the talent Arizona is essentially adding.

[Horry For 3!]

I think this trade is stupid for the Phillies, they are givin up Lee and good prospects and gettin back Halladay and okay prospects.


Mariners come out on top in this deal though with gettin Lee and only havin to give up 2 prospects.

[KSeal]

Glad the Phillies had to give up Drabek. I wonder how much better this really makes them for next year, nobody could pitch better then Cliff Lee pitched in the 09 playoffs. I'm surprised they couldn't find a way to get Halladay and keep Lee even for just this year when looking at the prospects they gave up.

[EricB]

I don't understand philly's thinking what so ever behind this trade.

[JamStone]

Along the same lines as what's been said already, perhaps the Phillies don't believe that Cliff Lee can pitch the same way next year like he had in the playoffs. He did have a little bit of inconsistency year to year in Cleveland. And, knowing they'll have a hard time affording Lee, perhaps the Phillies think if he has a down year, they wouldn't be able to get the same caliber of prospects if they wait to trade him next year. I'm just guessing.

[symple19]

I like this deal for the Mariners too. Cliff/Felix 1-2 punch is nasty.

Halladay will probably be untouchable pitching in the NL though, so the Phils are still the NL frontrunner, IMO.

[gaKNOW!blee]

This deal is pretty simple for the Phillies. They had three choices:

Do nothing: Cliff Lee is your ace this year then walks at the end of the year because they already tried to re-sign him and he wants a CC deal. Something the Phillies arent looking to give him.

Trade for Halladay and keep Lee: Great for this year....but risky. If one of them gets hurt you're screwed because your farm is empty now.

Option 3 is what they chose: Trading for Halladay gives you a top 3 pitcher in baseball for the next FOUR years, and you still get 2 of Seattles top 10 prospects. They might not be the same caliber but you never know how prospects will turn out...you know exactly what you're getting in Halladay. Drabek is obviously a great great talent, but is coming off TJ surgery at a young age (probably wont be a big deal, but there are questions) and Taylor is a stud in the minors but blocked right now by 3 all start OF's in Philly.

I like what the Phils did.