You'd see a Kobe/Jordan once every few months. They were so one-sided back then that it was laughable but not any more.
There's been at least 10-15 threads about Kobe this year.... it's giving full force to a debate. Haters creating threads to defend Jordan, Kobe lovers creating threads for Kobe.
And within these debates, Kobe is surpassing MJ in some stats like clutch shots.
It's gone from a ridiculous notion to being a full on debate supported by both sides.
Both sides are fueling the fire this time. MJ vs Kobe is already being debated by both sides and Kobe's still lacking rings ....
Al, with the goods, comprehensive style.The fact that there is indeed debate on the matter shows there is some merit to the conversation.
Ironically, its the haters themselves that bring validity to the argument by actually entertaining the notion that MJ actually needs stats backing to be > Kobe. Last few years it was just a plain GTFO.
I can't help but note that the only people supporting Kobe in the debate are usually Laker fans or Kobe nuthuggers.You'd see a Kobe/Jordan once every few months. They were so one-sided back then that it was laughable but not any more.
There's been at least 10-15 threads about Kobe this year.... it's giving full force to a debate. Haters creating threads to defend Jordan, Kobe lovers creating threads for Kobe.
And within these debates, Kobe is surpassing Kobe in some stats like clutch shots.
It's gone from a ridiculous notion to being a full on debate supported by both sides. Both sides are fueling the fire this time.
And the people supporting Jordan are the Kobe haters.
That's the oddness, back then, you'd have one laughable thread and GTFO but now, there's constant debate back and forth from BOTH sides.
What was once a one-sided and ridiculous argument has people scurrying to take sides; thereby validating a comparison that the Kobe haters deny even exists.
He had no choice when he was younger; he had a supper ty team around him
There's no debate.
It STILL is a one-sided and ridiculous argument.
It's not even close really.
Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe
And I think Kobe *IS* the best player in the NBA right now. I don't hate him at all.
Lefty, Jordan was a ball hog his whole career.
One of my favorite Jordan moments is when Jordan was asking for the ball and Pippen passed it to Kerr for an easy 2 and Jordan went off on him on national tv for not passing him the ball. You don't get more selfish than that.
Al just whippin that Forum ass.
tee, hee.
Bitter Lakerfan?
What was your favorite Kobe moment? When he was bagging on Bynum on the parking lot, or when he was asking to be traded to the Clippers?
LakeShow just whippin that Forum ass.
tee, hee.
When he got kicked out of the NBA for a year.
When he punked Duncan and Robinson in the playoffs. Posterizing them at ease.
We are not Kobe haters. Jordan remains the better player. I still don't see how the writer, a Kobe nuthugger, needs to remove Kobe's first three years in the league to even make a comparision. Was there a need to award Kobe because he came into the league right out of high school? I don't think so. If you are not good enough right out of the bat, there is no need to make the comparision.
Where have you been, have a look at how many Jordan numbers and threads that have been created by the Jordan supporters recently.
If it wasn't starting to get close; people wouldn't be bothered with backing up Jordan with actual stats.It's not even close really.
Phil's endorsing Kobe for game winners and Kobe exceeding MJ's clutch count was a pretty big revelation this year for the Kobe side. MJ isn't adding any new accolades so it's natural that Kobe is closing on MJ and beating MJ in some areas.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe's already reviewed every MJ achievement to determine which ones are beatable and which ones he shouldn't waste time on.
As you can see, there are less > signs than there used to be.Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe
I remember a couple of years it used to be Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe... but it's shortening every year. And as that gap shortens, more and more Jordan supporters and Kobe supporters are taking their side.
At least you do accept to be a bitter, envious Laker fan and Kobe gobbler.When he punked Duncan and Robinson in the playoffs. Posterizing them at ease.
Thats a positive in my book.
The writer erased Kobe's first years but didn't erase Jordan's Wizards years.
The writer was either an unborn or a pre-school kid when Jordan was playing.
Kobe circle jerk thread? Pity the fools. Everyone will be comparing me with Jordan. Not Kobe Bryant.
O.J Mayo > Karl Malone and John Stockton aka J.J Hickson and Goran Dragic = Michael Jordan > Kobe Bryant
That is what is going to happen. Smell ya later, the Juiceman kicked you Laker s in the ass again.
I've been here. So now thread count means there's any debate?
You should read what those threads actually say, then you would know there's nothing to debate.
It's not close. And at Kobe's age, it's not going to be close either.
The sooner you get that into your skull, the easier it's going to be to accept it.
Phil can say whatever he wants. Fact is that under his rule, MJ *ALWAYS* delivered the goods, while Kobe has not. He knows that, you know that.
Kobe is not even a good closer by any statistical measure.
Whatever amount of > characters means it's not close, that's how many you need to put there.
People taking sides; seems like you've joined the "non-existant" Kobe/Jordan comparison as well
Lame. Just calling it like I see it but John Starks was one of my favorite players back in the day.At least you do accept to be a bitter, envious Laker fan and Kobe gobbler.
Thats a positive in my book.
btw, i had the opportunity to see both players entire careers.
Look at all the gay Laker fans trying to make it sound like Kobe Bryant is on the same tier as Michael Jordan.
Tier 1
O.J Mayo
Tier 2
Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Tier 3
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Hakeem Olajuwon
Tier 4
Everybody else, they all just role players.
The Greatest of all time in the near future just kicked your ass again.
Yes, the threads are validating a Kobe/MJ comparison. If it was so laughable, there wouldn't be so many opposing threads.
New threads are popping up because the last one didn't stop the Jordan/Kobe comparisons ...and that's the irony of it all right there. By debating the comparison, Jordan lovers are validating the comparison itself
Most of Jordan's glory didn't come until this age. People forget Jordan didn't start his 2nd 3-peat until he was 33. Kobe can have 6 rings by 33.It's not close. And at Kobe's age, it's not going to be close either.
The sooner you get that into your skull, the easier it's going to be to accept it.
Sorry if I believe Phil's opinion carries considerably more weight than your opinion. Phil and the stats say Kobe is more clutch.Phil can say whatever he wants. Fact is that under his rule, MJ *ALWAYS* delivered the goods, while Kobe has not. He knows that, you know that.
Kobe is not even a good closer by any statistical measure.
My point is it's shortening with every year.Whatever amount of > characters means it's not close, that's how many you need to put there.
Lame. Just calling it like I see it but John Starks was one of my favorite players back in the day.
btw, i had the opportunity to see both players entire careers.
I just see this whole thing as the typical contemporary discussion when a player is doing good. It's like when Shaq was doing good, everyone was on the Shaq bandwagon and he was the best big ever, etc etc etc... nowadays, a lot of people dog on him like he's got aids, especially Laker fans...
From a fan that is not a Laker OR Bulls fan, and after watching both guys complete careers, it's not really close: Jordan was so much more superior and dominant than Kobe. Then I know bitter piston fan will come around and talk about quality of opposition and blah blah blah, but they're all excuses.
I just see this whole thing as the typical contemporary discussion when a player is doing good. It's like when Shaq was doing good, everyone was on the Shaq bandwagon and he was the best big ever, etc etc etc... nowadays, a lot of people dog on him like he's got aids, especially Laker fans...
From a fan that is not a Laker OR Bulls fan, and after watching both guys complete careers, it's not really close: Jordan was so much more superior and dominant than Kobe. Then I know bitter piston fan will come around and talk about quality of opposition and blah blah blah, but they're all excuses.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Kobe > Jordan but I agree with the topic. They both have accomplished things in this league that the other can not touch. Kobe is still playing and playing at a very high level. It is not unreasonable to believe that he will surpass Jordan as the Goat. I am one of those believers.
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