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    To be a conservative, you have to do conservative things. The EPA, Wage and Price controls, etc...are not conservative things. Hence, Nixon was no conservative.
    Ah, the good old reliable no true scotsman fallacy.

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    I agree with the reasons you list above, until you get to China. Now he didn't start globalization, and it is the improper currency value and method of taxation that hurts us in the world community. Not because we established relationships with China.

    As for the EPA, it is one of the few regulatory agencies that have done us good, until bad science started controlling them.
    You may have a point. It wasn't the opening of China that got us into trouble, it was the fact we allowed them to import manufactured goods into the US that are made without regard to any of the regulations, restrictions, etc. we put on our Manufacturers. Therefore the "method of taxation" you mentioned, or the lack thereof (we needed to adequately tarriff those products,) could actually be the better cause of American losses to China. Currency valuation, ditto. Since China never allowed their currency to float in the free markets...proper tarriff implementation could have made up for this as well.

    Not sure when the EPA ever did anyone any good tho. I remember the 60's and 70's quite well. The events that happened would have happened, been cleaned up, and regulations imposed without the EPA ever needing to be created. The EPA of today is the most gestapo-like, gun-toting, authoritarian agency outside of the IRS that we have. Case study of an agency run amok.


    And you do know that our water restriction here in San Antonio have nothing to do with availability of water, but 100% due to the Endangered Species Act? Another idiot NIXON move that has affected the lives of everyone for the last 30 yrs.

    Did I mention how much Nixon sucked?
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    politics and politicians. They are all corrupt plutocrats (until proven innocent, but no one will prosecute).

    Look how conservative "principles", of war on employees, free (monopolistic, cartelized) markets, globalization (buy cheap over there rather than make here), tax cuts for super wealthy and corps, and unending wars have concentrated (conservatives') wealth and ed over everybody else.


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    " nearly twice as many Americans view 2000 to 2009 negatively than positively,"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/te...er=rss&emc=rss

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