Iggy vs Butler for TMac?

[Double-Up]

Iguodala >> Butler. Iggy is younger, has more upside, plays great defense and is better than Butler offensively. He also is an iron man. I think he's missed only five games throughout his career so far, IIRC. Trade proposal:

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[JamStone]

I agree with whoever said both Iguodala and Butler can play the 2-guard and effectively. If there is anything important in terms of the difference between a player caught between the 2-guard and the small forward positions, it's whether the player can defend the other position effectively. With both Iguodala and Butler, they can effectively defend the 2-guard position. It's not even a question. Both have ball handling skills and both can score. I don't see an issue with either playing primarily the 2-guard. Butler should have been playing 2-guard his whole career if you ask me. Iguodala might have an inconsistent jumper, but he's still more of a 2-guard than a small forward to me as well.

The Rockets have already been playing Ariza a lot at the 2, so I don't see why there would be an issue doing the same with either Butler or Iguodala. In fact, that's a really nice group of wing players with Butler, Ariza, and Battier, each playing about 30-35 mpg.

I actually think Caron Butler is a better player than Iguodala. Butler hasn't had a great year, but when he's right, he has a better jumper, he's got a bigger arsenal of ways to score like posting up or attacking the offensive glass. He's not quite the defender but is still above average, and with his poor play this year, his value might be low so he might cost less than Iguodala. Iguodala is a better ball handler and slightly better playmaker, but it's not as big a difference as some might think. When Caron has had to be a facilitator on offense, like the previous couple seasons, he'd put up 7-8 assist games easily. He averaged 4-5 assists the previous two seasons.

Iguodala is like 4 years younger though. So that might be a big factor.

But, personally, I don't know why either Washington or Philly would trade for T-Mac's contract. Even if they are blowing things up, both Butler and Iguodala have to have more value than just an expiring contract and maybe a draft pick.

[GuerillaBlack]

Iggy's age is the dealbreaker, even with his contract. Iggy, at 25, is just entering the prime of his career. That's why his long contract isn't so bad.

[djohn2oo8]

I agree with whoever said both Iguodala and Butler can play the 2-guard and effectively. If there is anything important in terms of the difference between a player caught between the 2-guard and the small forward positions, it's whether the player can defend the other position effectively. With both Iguodala and Butler, they can effectively defend the 2-guard position. It's not even a question. Both have ball handling skills and both can score. I don't see an issue with either playing primarily the 2-guard. Butler should have been playing 2-guard his whole career if you ask me. Iguodala might have an inconsistent jumper, but he's still more of a 2-guard than a small forward to me as well.

The Rockets have already been playing Ariza a lot at the 2, so I don't see why there would be an issue doing the same with either Butler or Iguodala. In fact, that's a really nice group of wing players with Butler, Ariza, and Battier, each playing about 30-35 mpg.

I actually think Caron Butler is a better player than Iguodala. Butler hasn't had a great year, but when he's right, he has a better jumper, he's got a bigger arsenal of ways to score like posting up or attacking the offensive glass. He's not quite the defender but is still above average, and with his poor play this year, his value might be low so he might cost less than Iguodala. Iguodala is a better ball handler and slightly better playmaker, but it's not as big a difference as some might think. When Caron has had to be a facilitator on offense, like the previous couple seasons, he'd put up 7-8 assist games easily. He averaged 4-5 assists the previous two seasons.

Iguodala is like 4 years younger though. So that might be a big factor.

But, personally, I don't know why either Washington or Philly would trade for T-Mac's contract. Even if they are blowing things up, both Butler and Iguodala have to have more value than just an expiring contract and maybe a draft pick.

It's more about economics than talent. For example, Philly makes like 500,000 a game, the Rockets make $1,000,000 per game, the difference in attendance is crippling Philly and Washington amongst other teams as well. Philly wants to and HAS to get rid of either Dalembert or Brand's contract to become relevant again. To do that, they HAVE to give up Igoudala because they cannot build around him if they can't free up money, and any deal including Dalembet without Andre will not lead to any team taking his contract.

[GuerillaBlack]

It's more about economics than talent. For example, Philly makes like 500,000 a game, the Rockets make $1,000,000 per game, the difference in attendance is crippling Philly and Washington amongst other teams as well. Philly wants to and HAS to get rid of either Dalembert or Brand's contract to become relevant again. To do that, they HAVE to give up Igoudala because they cannot build around him if they can't free up money, and any deal including Dalembet without Andre will not lead to any team taking his contract.

Plus, Philly's young guys aren't bad, which is why Morey wants at least one of them. With their lottery pick (John Wall sweepstakes) and if McGrady is traded there, his contract comes off at the end of the season. That's a lot for them to work with.