It's not about the judge, it's about the prosecutor's office. NBA players, for some strange reason, seem to have special connections that keep them out of jail for egregious acts (see my last post).
Kori says the evidence is all over the place, so that means prosecutors plea bargaining it to get rid of it, or just dropping it altogether.
No, I didn't mean the evidence. I said "stories" -- meaning stories/hearsay that is being reported is contradictory in terms of when it happened, etc. In terms of evidence, I don't even know if there is much evidence other than the three guns... I don't think anyone else was in the locker room when it happened.
"Multiple sources told ESPN.com that an argument commenced during a card game on the team's overnight flight back to Washington from Phoenix on Dec. 19 and escalated into a heated exchange between Arenas and Crittenton. The Wizards had Dec. 20 off, but sources say the hostilities resumed Dec. 21 in the locker room on a practice day.
Sources say that Arenas, in response to what was said on the flight, placed three guns he owns on a chair near Crittenton's locker stall and invited him to pick one before practice on Dec. 21. Sources said that Crittenton subsequently let Arenas know that he had his own gun. "
Having read that, which sounds far more likely than the two of them going gunslinger on each other, I bet Arenas ends up pleading guilty to possession outside of his home and gets a minimal sentence.
Gotcha. My bad, you did say "stories".
Well it wouldn't just be possession outside his home. The guns aren't registered in DC, and might have been purchased illegally.
I guess it depends on how much more comes out about it.
I'm guessing he'll get severely suspended though. It's against NBA rules for them to have a gun at the arena/practice facility/NBA events.
agree.
This is a FEDERAL matter in the nation's capital. , Obama could have attended those games. If true. Arenas is ED
I saw your last post.. I still don't see your basis for an equal comparision that would alow you to say that NBA players get away with more then NFL players.. again 53 players on an NFL team, 15 on an NBA team. Logic says you are going to have more players in the NFL going to jail then the NBA. For every Jayson Williams I can give you a Ray Lewis.
BTW 2 thoughts:
1. How stupid can you be to bring a gun to a professional NBA team's games. how stupid????
2. In DC, word on the street is if they catch you with a gun they lock you up 3 years for each bullet they find in your possession.
My question is when your salary is in the millions, why can't you pay up on a debt from a card game?
Why don't we just check the law and sentencing guidelines?
A lot of people are just es like that..it was also probably a huge debt..
I have people owe me money ALL THE TIME for gambling debts and loans..probably nowhere near this debt..and they're still late on payments or refuse to pay until it's under their own terms..these are friends too..some people are just annoying with money, and you learn a lesson when it comes to loans and gambling with them..
lol you have a point Harlem.. I have a small credit card bill that I could pay off completely any time but don't feel like throwing the money at it cause I'd rather buy a video game.. It does always suck giving money to debts.
I heard it was around $200K.
wow, that is massive..
Crittenton is only making 1.4 mil a year..include taxes and fees, and it's a lot less..200K is A LOT of $ to this guy, so you can believe how serious it is..
I think it's going to turn out being a case of either Arenas being a like I said earlier, or Arenas didn't take the bet seriously..
I played a hand of Texas hold 'em in my HS class a few years ago..we were playing small bets, 10-20$ at a time..it wasn't a huge thing..we had one last hand before the bell, and the ante went up to a $1000..I ended up winning the hand and I expected to be paid..the other person involved said he didn't think we were being serious since we went up that high, and he refused to pay me..I took it seriously though, and it led to a serious issue between us..I never got my money and we don't talk anymore..
200K is a ridiculous amount of $, especially to a guy that isn't making too much by NBA standards..luckily nobody was hurt by this from a physical standpoint..
Figured this had already been posted...
A Modest Proposal for Washington
by Timothy Varner
The Spurs play the Wizards tomorrow night, and it’s hard to imagine two locker rooms with such an hetical reputations. The Wizards have been in meltdown mode all year, and this morning we learn that Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton recently pulled guns on one another over a gambling debt. You can find Washington’s official statement about the incident at, among other places, Truth About It.
My reaction to the story runs in a couple different directions. The first is to roll my eyes and wonder how some media outlets might paint the NBA through the filter of this unfortunate episode. From my perspective, MLB (steroids) and the NFL (rampant criminal activity) are far worse than the NBA in terms of character issues. That’s a gut assessment, not a scientific one, but contrary to popular opinion, the NBA’s players are more or less a decent group of guys. Ah, but popular opinion is king, right?
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Arenas is the same guy who bet $20,000 (and won) against DeShawn Stevenson over who could hit more three pointers in 100 chances, Stevenson normally or Arenas one-handed from the college line. And that's just the one bet that made it out to public, the guy must be an action junkie.
Considering how he was acting in that bet's video footage to distract Stevenson, it wouldn't be a big shock if he was shirking paying up promptly on a bet he lost.
If Arenas gets jail time, surely that's basis for voiding his contract? ANy lawyers around?
There's nothing in the rules about voiding a contract in this specific incident IIRC, but I would assume that any major punishment will have some kind of contract repercussions..I highly doubt Arenas goes to jail though..
If you're involved with the Wizards, do you want this to be true?..
I still don't believe the story though..
Disagree. Haywood is on a different level. He actually is a big that plays big. Have you watched him lately. I'd take him in a heart beat
I read somewhere that the Wizards are actually aware of Arenas possessing the gun (from Arenas' own Twitter?)...
It is time the NBA clean up the acts. Super-star or No Super-star.
Yeah, they knew that he brought the guns (there were three of them). But it's against rules of the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement.
http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-VI.php
Section 9. Firearms.
(a) Whenever a player is physically present at a facility or venue owned, operated, or being used by a Team, the NBA, or any League-related en y, and whenever a player is traveling on any NBA-related business, whether on behalf of the player’s Team, the NBA, or any League-related en y, such player shall not possess a firearm of any kind. For purposes of the foregoing, “a facility or venue” includes, but is not limited to: an arena; a practice facility; a Team or League office or facility; an All-Star or NBA Playoff venue; and the site of a promotional or charitable appearance.
(b) Any violation of Section 9(a) above shall be considered conduct prejudicial to the NBA under Article 35(d) of the NBA Cons ution and By-Laws, and shall therefore subject the player to discipline by the NBA in accordance with such Article.
So I have some guns at my house, and my child is now in their terrible twos and having the guns around could pose a danger, what should I do? I know I'll take them to my work place and keep them there, I'll just let the boss know so it won't be a problem. This guy makes a ton of money, he can't buy a lock box,he can't find a friend or relative to keep them for him,he can't just sell them? I doubt any thing major comes out of this other than to put a stain on Arena's resume, but if he keeps scoring at a 20+ clip, it will all be forgotten in a couple of years and shouldn't affect his next big contract. Jarvis on the other hand may wind up in Europe, he isn't the talent Arenas is, and if the story is found to be true, who would want a gun toting maniac who can't put up 20 a night around?
Federal investigation and repercussions aside, you can expect Stern to come down hard on Arenas and Crittenton if both had guns in the lockerroom. Maybe suspensions for the rest of the season..
It has been reported that the NBA has a zero tolerance policy on guns that would allow Wash to void Arenas' contract. If they did that and managed to dump Butler and Jamison (say by sending them to Hou for McGrady) they would only have about 14 million on the books for next year. They would be able to get a mulligan on a team that was assembled to compete for a ring but never went anywhere and was over the cap.
Last edited by Mark in Austin; 01-02-2010 at 01:58 PM.
Y'all are funny thinking they will blow up the team. They will get rid of the catalyst (Crittendon) and move on.
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