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  1. #26
    TD since 97 ezau's Avatar
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    Congrats Kobe, 25,000 is no joke

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    That's a lot of points.

  3. #28
    Veteran namlook's Avatar
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    When his athleticism starts to drop he'll just use his huge frame to murder opponents on the block. I remember haters used to say the same thing about Jordan.
    There's no guarantee he will develop a post game like Jordan. Jordan didn't use his size in the post to bully opponents, he used skill. Time will tell if Lebron develops the skills needed to still be dominant when the athleticism goes after age 30.

  4. #29
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    Kobe=MSP(Most Selfish Player in NBA history)

    Don't get me wrong, I mean...he wouldn't have reached 25,000 points if he ain't so selfish.

    Keep shooting 35 times per game Kobe, that can also make your teammates look like a fool.
    Last edited by wanggi; 01-22-2010 at 10:00 AM.

  5. #30
    bandwagon hater
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    Just for those curious....

    Kobe Bryant:

    FGM/A - 8,699-19,123
    3PM/A - 1,255-3,689
    FTM/A - 6,359-7,576

    Now, maybe Im just tired and doing my math wrong but help me understand this.

    He JUST broke 25,000 last night, right?

    And they dont count post season for this stat, right? At least, I know for Timmy's 20,000th point they are not counting Post season.

    So, here's my math......

    FGM = 8699. 8699 x 2 = 17398
    3PM = 1255. 1255 x 3 = 3765

    17398 + 3765 = 21163

    Are they counting his free throws? If so, he busted the 25,000 mark a while ago and is actually closer to 30,000 (somewhere around 27,500). Where are the other 3800 or so points coming from? Am I missing something?
    Last edited by phyzik; 01-22-2010 at 10:28 AM.

  6. #31
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    Props to Kobe!

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    Kidd-Gilchrist Damn Chieflion's Avatar
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    Just for those curious....

    Kobe Bryant:

    FGM/A - 8,699-19,123
    3PM/A - 1,255-3,689
    FTM/A - 6,359-7,576

    Now, maybe Im just tired and doing my math wrong but help me understand this.

    He JUST broke 25,000 last night, right?

    And they dont count post season for this stat, right? At least, I know for Timmy's 20,000th point they are not counting Post season.

    So, here's my math......

    FGM = 8699. 8699 x 2 = 17398
    3PM = 1255. 1255 x 3 = 3765

    17398 + 3765 = 21163

    Are they counting his free throws? If so, he busted the 25,000 mark a while ago and is actually closer to 30,000 (somewhere around 27,500). Where are the other 3800 or so points coming from? Am I missing something?
    You are mistaken. He made 8,699 - 1,255 = 7,444 (2 point shots) and made 1,255 (3 point shots).

    7,444 x 2 + 1,255 x 3 + 6359 x 1 = 14,888 + 3,765 + 6,359
    = 25012

    There you go. Field goals made also includes 3 point shots.

  8. #33
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    Pretty crazy to do it so young. Congrats to him. I think he could break Kareem's record by the time he's done.

  9. #34
    My Favorite Faded Fantasy The Gemini Method's Avatar
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    Congrats Kobe, lets see how many Laker fans congrat Duncan when he reaches 20000 points tomorrow.
    What does Duncan need? One point? Definitely gets props from me--there has never been an adversary worthy of praise like Duncan. I remember during the Shaq/Kobe 3-peat how I used to get nervous when we'd go against the Spurs solely on the ascent of Tim Duncan. The guy is still a threat to the Lakers and he'll get his props.

    Congrats, Kobe...to have grown up most of my adult life seeing you apply your numerous skills on the basketball has been a privilege. Sports may not take away bills, cure illnesses, or resolve world conflicts, but it does bring you a an ecstasy of riches and a momentary escape from the trials of the real world. Thanks for the memories up to this point.

  10. #35
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    You are mistaken. He made 8,699 - 1,255 = 7,444 (2 point shots) and made 1,255 (3 point shots).

    7,444 x 2 + 1,255 x 3 + 6359 x 1 = 14,888 + 3,765 + 6,359
    = 25012

    There you go. Field goals made also includes 3 point shots.
    ahh, ok, I see where I screwed up, thanks!

  11. #36
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    So ballhogging DOES pay off !

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    congratulations on the 25,000 and also for passing the best player torch to Lebron

  13. #38
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    Congrats to one of the best players in the league on what is a great achievment.

    But the fact of the matter is that Wilt Kareem and Jordan all got to 25000 points in 100+ fewer games. I believe Wilt did it in almost 300 fewer games. Still an amazing job by Kobe... but this whole "youngest player to ever do it" thing doesen't mean a whole lot.


    **edit** Just looked up Wilts numbers and he got to 25k in 691 games. Any laker-fans out there know how many games it was for Kobe?

    **edit number 2** Looked it up myself also and Kobe did it in 990

    **edit number 3** And I swear the last one. Jordan played 1072 games in his career for a total of 32,292 points. Thats 82 games more then Kobe has played until now in his career. if Kobe avergaes 25 a game for the next 82 games he would finish with 27,062 points.
    Last edited by Trimble87; 01-22-2010 at 05:26 PM.

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    Chillin' like a villain... TampaDude's Avatar
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    Congrats to one of the best players in the league on what is a great achievment.

    But the fact of the matter is that Wilt Kareem and Jordan all got to 25000 points in 100+ fewer games. I believe Wilt did it in almost 300 fewer games. Still an amazing job by Kobe... but this whole "youngest player to ever do it" thing doesen't mean a whole lot.
    Wilt, Kareem, and Jordan played in a different era, when scores were much higher.

    Still, an impressive achievement by Kobe. Of course, LeBron will smash all of Kobe's individual records one day.

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    Congrats Kobe! Well done! 25k is quite a lot.

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    Records were meant to be broken...Kobe broke a legend's records and so will LeBron...Someday, someone will come along and smash LeBron's records and so on...That's the way the ball bounces.

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    Chillin' like a villain... TampaDude's Avatar
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    records were meant to be broken...kobe broke a legend's records and so will lebron...someday, someone will come along and smash lebron's records and so on...that's the way the ball bounces.
    ^ this

  18. #43
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    Records were meant to be broken...Kobe broke a legend's records and so will LeBron...Someday, someone will come along and smash LeBron's records and so on...That's the way the ball bounces.
    Agreed, although it will be difficult to break some of LeBron's records, because 2-3 years after he joined the league (I'm not sure when exactly) Stern and his guys decided that highschool players have to wait one year before being eligible to join the NBA and making those records even harder to surpass.

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    My Favorite Faded Fantasy The Gemini Method's Avatar
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    Agreed, although it will be difficult to break some of LeBron's records, because 2-3 years after he joined the league (I'm not sure when exactly) Stern and his guys decided that highschool players have to wait one year before being eligible to join the NBA and making those records even harder to surpass.
    That is true...but then you can also throw the thought out there that LeBron suffers a major knee injury and doesn't have the longevity required to beat some long standing records. It's mere speculation and until the records do fall, remains so.

  20. #45
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    congratulations on the 25,000 and also for passing the best player torch to Lebron
    Lebron doesn't get the torch until he wins a championship. The greatest players are judged on winning. Stats and regular seasons victories are secondary. If you don't win you aren't the best.
    Last edited by namlook; 01-22-2010 at 07:19 PM.

  21. #46
    Rising above the Fray spursncowboys's Avatar
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    Congratulations to one of the best scorers in league history.
    +1
    Here's to him losing to the Spurs in the PO this year
    Last edited by spursncowboys; 01-22-2010 at 08:44 PM.

  22. #47
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    There's no guarantee he will develop a post game like Jordan. Jordan didn't use his size in the post to bully opponents, he used skill. Time will tell if Lebron develops the skills needed to still be dominant when the athleticism goes after age 30.
    Are you kidding me? Jordan packed on tons of lbs to battle on the block.

  23. #48
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    Don't be so sure. Lebron won't be scoring like he is now when his athleticism goes. Expect to see a sharp drop in Lebron's offensive game once he hits 30 or so. When he doesn't have the ability to blow past and through people to the rim, his ability to score will take a serious hit. Kobe has the skills to put up 25-30 PPG for the next 5 years even though he doesn't have the athleticism he had in his 20s. I can't see Lebron being able to do that in the later stages of his career.
    Yeah, but his athleticism shouldn't fade anytime soon, and he should get this record. He already has 14,301 points and the season is only halfway over. He should easily get the extra 10,000 in the next 5 years as long as he doesn't get hurt. He's only 26 now.

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