all i know is that when we played in the tournament circuit, back in the late 80s, and on into the mid 90s, there were several pitchers from foreign countries such as the ones i mentioned earlier, i.e. canada, new zealand, australia, and, of course the united states that were "timed" with those radar guns, "juggs", and the scouts for the pan american games were the ones doing the timing, and they would routinely show us the speeds of some of these pitchers, and i, vividly remember seeing these speeds, with the highest speed i ever witnessed was 115 mph, and this pitcher came from australia !
another thing that i was amazed at, when you see these pitchers was that their forearms were so much different in size (with their pitching forearm being so much larger) it was absolutely astonishing !
i swear, their pitching forearm was, typically twice the size of their non-pitching forearm !

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