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i only wish the spurs could get kaman.
Is manu really going to re sign back with us anyway.
seems butthurt about the whole situation
i only wish the spurs could get kaman.
kaman isnt going anywhere. maybe camby
hmmmm why not.....manu ain't the same player he use to be.......bring on stoudemire....suns can take rj as well
If the Spurs are capable and allowed by the CBA to sign him to an extension and flip him for Bosh come the offseason, I'm all for it.
Seeing as I don't think you're able to do that or it would be something the Spurs would do, I'd have no problem declining; he doesn't make them a championship team this year and he's not the type of player you want to lock yourself into with max-type money moving forward.
I don't really see how a roster shakeup is going to be good for the Spurs at this point. We know they have the talent to do well, they just aren't playing well. How does plugging x number of new players in now even get them into the playoffs? Strange how many people think it's so ludicruous for me to suggest that two guys who have been on the team for several years actually get some playing time, yet lots of people think a system Antonio McDyess can't understand is going to be figured out by just anybody whose name happens to fit in the ESPN trade machine.
The Suns fanbase would murder Sarver if he tried to pull that just to save 2 million. But seriously, this is just speculation. Spurs have nothing the Suns want and I don't really see Amare as the guy that's gonna turn this team around.Here ya go Sarver, I just saved you $2,178,325 and RJ gets to play in his home state.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjgkeyq
On another note, I'm kinda enjoying seeing the FO in panic mode after the way they ed this team over by standing pat in the summer of '07:
"We're the NBA champions! We don't need Scola!"
Dumbasses.
Well, from what I've read, GINOBILLI!!! is upset at the Spurs for not re-signing him. That one line "I used to think it was like a family but I realize now it's a business" stands out.I realize that Manu's time as a Spur will end but it's still hard to let go......
I don't know if this possible trade scenario would make the Spurs any better than they are now.....which isn't that great........well, I imagine this thread will go 20+ pages......
Should Ginobili stay or should he go???!!!
There's a very real chance that he walks over the summer and the Spurs get nothing in return for him.
So if trading Manu now nets a player like Stouds, who actually respects TimmyD, you have to consider it.
Of course, maybe the Suns are crazy enough to take RJ? They would need a replacement Center for their small ball after all.
Damn.
I need to digest this.
give them jefferson and whatever else.
Tony
Hill
Manu
Duncan
Amare
Ill take my chances with that over what we got.
Amares defense really isnt that impressive, but IMO he would already improve our defense by being 610 and athletic, anything that goes against small ball count me in
Amare's defense sucks.
But I would give up anyone outside of the big 3 for him.
That wasn't meant to be solely directed to you or as a shot at you (I agree with you).
If the Spurs are capable and allowed by the CBA to sign him to an extension and flip him for Bosh come the offseason, I'm all for it.
Seeing as I don't think you're able to do that or it would be something the Spurs would do, I'd have no problem declining; he doesn't make them a championship team this year and he's not the type of player you want to lock yourself into with max-type money moving forward.
I doubt the Raptors do that trade. If they can't keep Bosh, my guess is he's dealt in an off season sign-and-trade for a true center, so that they can move Bragnani to his rightful position: powerless forward. Besides, there's no chance the limelight-seeking-wanting-to-play-on-a-contender Stoudemire would sign with a Raptors team with no shot at competing for a championship in the foreseeable future.
Completely agree. It's not just the money he's seeking (reportedly 3 years/$60 million), it's the fact that he'll be twenty-eight by next season and has had some major injuries/surgeries (this for a player who relies heavily on his freakish athleticism). This guy could easily decline by the time he's thirty one-thirty two and then what? The Spurs would be stuck (assuming he re-signs for 3 years, then stays after that) with a defenseless version of McDyess, only he'd be making almost quadruple as much? Forget it.
The Spurs need a defensive presence, with length (minimum 6'11''), who can guard the rim, block shots and rebound the ball. Not another player who needs the ball to be effective. This is why Camby or Haywood is ideal. They fit the description of what the Spurs need and they'd both stay out of Duncan's way offensively (Camby in particular, as he's a decent passer from the high post and can make the occasional mid-range jumper).
What I take from this article (which pleases me) is that, like it says, the Spurs realize they have to do something (and probably will), mainly on the front line, but I don't take from it at all that they're getting Stoudemire (even though that's the basis of the article). I'd be beyond shocked if that occurred.
This is just wow. Especially coming from Wojnarowski, who is more than credible.
agreed. If it was Sam Smith, Peter Vecsey or Hoopsworld I'd ignore it.
Now I just feel sick though.
I'd rather Ginobili for Bosh than Stoudemire.
Oh wow. Hmmm kinda crazy.
This would be a desperation move similar to what the Suns did when they traded for Shaq two years ago.
Those kinds of moves basically never work out.
Still, I think it is becoming obvious that the Spurs as built aren't going to do much.
The sad thing is that Ginobili's value as a trading chip has now exceeded his value as a player. 12-13 ppg, piss poor shooting, and the constant fear of an injury isn't going to be enough with Tony battling PF and Timmy declining. Might as well roll the dice.
Unfortunately Phoenix isn't going to take RJ's contract. They are looking for expiring contracts.. so that would be Manu plus someone like Bonner.
What's the status of his eye injury? If there is still a risk of him losing his eyesight, then the Spurs need to be cautious and take his health into consideration.
Amare isn't known for his defense. He's never been the difference maker when the Spurs faced the Suns in the post season. They need a more steady defensive force in the paint and Amare doesn't fit that role. Phoenix has never won anything with him, and I don't think his game will change just because he's wearing a different uniform. Its an interesting thought, but I'm going to have to pass. Atleast management knows they have to make a move before the deadline, and I have confidence they'll get something done.
Unless we get Shane Battier or a dominant stopper, I really dont see the point in worrying so much over a loss in defense. The Spurs have lost their edge in the defensive department and what better way to compensate with a offensive powerhouse in Amare.
Ideally, a Jefferson for Amare trade would be magical. Bogans is capable of playing a lot of time at our 3 spot, or as Pop likes, could have Manu there. We really just need anything at the moment to get this team going again.
i'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Mahinmi, since that coming out game against NJ, hasn't gotten enough time out on the floor. in the desperate state the Spurs are in you'd think they'd find a way to use him.
And i still believe in RJ. i think he'll pull through.
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