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Toyota certainly seems prepared to hand over a little chunk of market share right now.
No. Ford was years ahead of GM in terms of restructuring for profitability. I assume you are not tryign to compare the car maker bailouts with the bank bailouts.
No. It is simply an individual case with little bearing on being able to measure/gauge the effacacy of Obama's policies.Does it also show that Obama and co.'s plans for the economy (including stimulus packages and cash for clunkers) have the capacity to work ideally?
I have been telling people for years to buy Ford stock. While they still have a debt load that needs to be addressed, they are fully aware of the need to pay that off, and I think they will take very important market shares from both GM and Toyota in the coming years.
Toyota certainly seems prepared to hand over a little chunk of market share right now.
I'd never buy a FORD again, had trouble with every Ford I've owned. Toyota truck buyers could drift toward Ford and Chevy though, so $11 may not be a bad price for a short term hold, but with all that debt, I wouldn't try a long-term hold...it's gonna take some time for buyers to trust Toyota again even after sales come back online for all models...
Thanks for the answers so far.
I think Toyota just got "Audi-ized". Except this time, the acceleration charges seem alot cleaner.
Toyota can survive because it had such a good reputation for reliability before this incident...but it's gonna have to do a lot of credibility building with buyers when everything is set and done...
Main answer that jumped out at me. (and I got tons of respect for RG)
Is it the taxpayer's fault that GM and others were behind Ford in the times, so to speak? Ford didn't need taxpayer money and yet they're the quickest to show an upsurge. You could call it blind luck since few predicted the economic downturn (and were trusted), or you could call it survival of the fittest and capitalism at its best.
Geesus Dan...that's a coherent thought process there.
Also correct on short term vs long term. Evaluating investments continuously is always a good idea...Ford may be positioned well for long term tho, especially with the new confidence Ford has generated in the market, and Toyota's recent misfortunes. But, their debt will need watching, govt didn't bail their's out.
I'm probably a little different with investing...not all my decisions are based on the numbers. I like Ford, I like what they've done, and I like how they've handled the tough times, and Jordan Ford and my Sales guy there have treated me damn good for 25 yrs. I am supporting and investing in them for that, as much as anything else.
Not always the wisest thing to do, I guess...but you get weird when you get older...lol
....I don't hold much stocks, the whole market is floating on unsustainalble debt, I hold land and water rights...I'm probably a little different with investing...not all my decisions are based on the numbers. I like Ford, I like what they've done, and I like how they've handled the tough times, and Jordan Ford and my Sales guy there have treated me damn good for 25 yrs. I am supporting and investing in them for that, as much as anything else.
Yeah, they had decades of good will here in the US, whereas Audi was still a fairly recent player even in the 80's. However, Audi made it's comeback in a strong market, although it arguably took them decades to do it. I don't think Toyota will enjoy the market underpinnings that Audi did. I can't really quantify that effect however. Just a thought.
As a side point, I just got my wife's Windstar out of the shop today. Plastic intake manifold warped (a very well do ented defect) and then the throttlebody got pretty screwed up. $1250 bones. I'm not a happy Ford owner right now. Last summer, I spent $600 replacing the AC and fixing the blower register doors (another known defect). I'm not off of American cars just yet, but damn.
Well, there ya' go.
Me, I make more money trading than investing. But I'm not above buying an occassional stock on a feeling and a whim. Ford felt right at the time. I mean, one of this countries greatest automakers trading at penny stock prices?
Of course, GM was down there too and I almost went for them as well. Actually know people who bought GM, and DID make money...but they got out pretty quick to do it.
The opportunities are there, and hopefully will continue to be.
I will say this about Ford products. My Fusion isn't quite the quality as my trucks were. Can't say enough about the Ford trucks I've owned. The fusion is ok...but, there is a difference.
Still, I got it maxed out, with leather, V6, everything...it even talks to you (I just don't know how to talk back to it)...for 20k.
Damned good deal, imho.
I do miss my F250 turbo diesel tho...lol
If your in SA I gotta great cheap mechanic!Yeah, they had decades of good will here in the US, whereas Audi was still a fairly recent player even in the 80's. However, Audi made it's comeback in a strong market, although it arguably took them decades to do it. I don't think Toyota will enjoy the market underpinnings that Audi did. I can't really quantify that effect however. Just a thought.
As a side point, I just got my wife's Windstar out of the shop today. Plastic intake manifold warped (a very well do ented defect) and then the throttlebody got pretty screwed up. $1250 bones. I'm not a happy Ford owner right now. Last summer, I spent $600 replacing the AC and fixing the blower register doors (another known defect). I'm not off of American cars just yet, but damn.
Toyota's rep will not be dinted much or for long. People see Toyota is making a huge effort recalling 9M cars. Toyota will fix the problem, and customers will stay.
What can I say, I'm a Honda guy..but I've been itching to say F the environment and get this bad boy..
..glad i waited..
I think Toyota will be a good buy soon. Have to look to see if there's a US subsidiary listed.
Japan is known for supporting their companies. The whole country, including the Govt., will be involved in making sure Toyota survives this. It's a whole different world in Japanese business. Toyota will come out of this...but, in the meantime, there could be some good opportunity.
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