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    I don't think the problem with health care in this county necessarily has to do with quality. I think the problem is access. I'm sure that when one of the Spurs hurts their knees they get doctors who are tops in their fields helping them with treatment. However, we can't use that as an argument that health care in this country is better for the entire county. Same thing goes for the premier of Canada. The problem in this county is that we rely on insurance to cover every facet of treatment, from routine checkups to more complicated issues. So you have a portion of the population who don't have any access to healthcare because of lack of insurance.
    A few months ago, I had a tooth pain. I called the public system and asked when could I get an urgent appointment with a dentist. The answer was 6 months and only because it was urgent. True story. Fortunately another part of my salary goes to an health insurance plan and I was able to get an appointment for the following day and only paid 10% of the dentist bill.

    Taxes capture about half of what I make. Almost 1/3 of the taxes go to the health-care system. And yet, to not wait 6 months for the dentist (or, more importantly, to not care about the nightmare scenario of needing some surgery to a cancer an being placed in a waiting listing whose waiting time far exceeds the expected living time for that condition), I have to pay for a private insurance.

    This to say that in health-care, like in any other market, rationing happens. It's a consequence of something called scarcity. Progressives believe that by writing stuff on paper and calling it laws they can change the reality and create affluence out of nothing. Bull . Can't happen. The question is: who's more efficient doing the rationing. I'd very much prefer to be me instead of some corrupt bureaucrats.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Teysha, you are far more patient and kind with SF in this area than I could ever be. I am sorry that you are in the situation you are in.
    Patience and kindness are irrelevant. It just takes alot of repudiation to overcome the amount of pop culture inertia that fuels these opinions. I can be an asshole or not. Today, not.

    No worries, dude. I can always knock off a liquor store or two when needed.

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    Patience and kindness are irrelevant. It just takes alot of repudiation to overcome the amount of pop culture inertia that fuels these opinions. I can be an asshole or not. Today, not.

    No worries, dude. I can always knock off a liquor store or two when needed.
    Granted. I know that lately I have just been unwilling to engage some of the crazies because I'm too lazy to try to be reasonable.

    Good luck with the liquor store plan.

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    You have access to healthcare...you just don't have all the access you want, and not the money to pay for it all. But, you do have access to doctors and hospitals. What you require just needs ton's of money...a situation that a lot of people can be in.

    But the point is...you do have access, as do we all, which is all I pointed out when Mr. Peabody stated people have NO access.

    ac·cess (kss)
    n.
    1. A means of approaching, entering, exiting, communicating with, or making use of: a store with easy access.
    2. The ability to or right to approach, enter, exit, communicate with, or make use of: has access to the restricted area; has access to classified material.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    A few months ago, I had a tooth pain. I called the public system and asked when could I get an urgent appointment with a dentist. The answer was 6 months and only because it was urgent. True story. Fortunately another part of my salary goes to an health insurance plan and I was able to get an appointment for the following day and only paid 10% of the dentist bill.

    Taxes capture about half of what I make. Almost 1/3 of the taxes go to the health-care system. And yet, to not wait 6 months for the dentist (or, more importantly, to not care about the nightmare scenario of needing some surgery to a cancer an being placed in a waiting listing whose waiting time far exceeds the expected living time for that condition), I have to pay for a private insurance.

    This to say that in health-care, like in any other market, rationing happens. It's a consequence of something called scarcity. Progressives believe that by writing stuff on paper and calling it laws they can change the reality and create affluence out of nothing. Bull . Can't happen. The question is: who's more efficient doing the rationing. I'd very much prefer to be me instead of some corrupt bureaucrats.
    i don't believe you.

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