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  1. #26
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    What part of "team that was already good" don't you understand? This is also Kubiak's first head coaching job. How did Wade do in his first job?
    Better than Kube's. What part of Wade>>>>Kubiak do you not understand?

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    Better than Kube's. What part of Wade>>>>Kubiak do you not understand?
    Fail. He was fired after his second season. Kubiak still has his first job and just got a new contract. Anything else?

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    lol can't win with John Elway
    lol Rob Johnson

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    I think it would've been better if there was a team option after 2 years.
    They managed to shave a year off by going with a new contract over an extension, so it probably evens out.

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    Fail. He was fired after his second season. Kubiak still has his first job and just got a new contract. Anything else?
    ....so if coaching records don't matter, WGAF who got a contract extension for their first time as a head coach?

    I thought I'd post some numbers on their coaching records with their current teams. That and troll the out of this thread.....

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    ....so if coaching records don't matter, WGAF who got a contract extension for their first time as a head coach?

    I thought I'd post some numbers on their coaching records with their current teams. That and troll the out of this thread.....
    I wouldn't say you are "trolling the " out of this thread. You actually do make a valid argument. They are both average coaches but great coordinators.

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    Fail. He was fired after his second season. Kubiak still has his first job and just got a new contract. Anything else?
    Gonzo summed it up nicely. They are both average HCs, but great coordinators.

    That being said, its easy to argue Wade as better than Kube, because he has had more success than Kube with their current teams.... But you can't make an argument that Kube is better than Wade. Not untill Kube has his team winning a division, a couple of playoff trips, a post season win.

    What is hard to understand that a teams performance is the only measuring stick in this league for a HC?

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    Hopefully Kube can take this team at least a step further next year.

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    Gonzo summed it up nicely. They are both average HCs, but great coordinators.

    That being said, its easy to argue Wade as better than Kube, because he has had more success than Kube with their current teams.... But you can't make an argument that Kube is better than Wade. Not untill Kube has his team winning a division, a couple of playoff trips, a post season win.

    What is hard to understand that a teams performance is the only measuring stick in this league for a HC?
    Again...it's hard to make this argument because he was handed a team that was already good. Kubiak had to start over at QB and RB...and managed to get the team to a winning record just a few years later. Furthermore, one can't really ignore Wade's multiple epic fails that led to him getting fired at several previous jobs.

    I would accept the argument that it's still a wash right now, but I can't honestly say that Wade is better. Looking at Wade's history, I would not want him as a head coach. Kubiak's sample size is still too small to really make an accurate judgment. If the Texans regress this year, I would agree that Kubiak is better suited as coordinator.

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    I wouldn't say you are "trolling the " out of this thread. You actually do make a valid argument. They are both average coaches but great coordinators.
    Thread is only two pages long, give it some time.

    I digress, I would much rather argue with Texan's fans that don't quit on their team anyways.

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    DeMeco got PAID!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5041689

    Ryans, Texans agree to six-year deal
    By Adam Schefter
    Pro Bowl linebacker DeMeco Ryans and the Houston Texans agreed to a six-year, $48 million deal that makes him one of the game's highest paid linebackers and ties him to the franchise through the 2015 season, according to sources.
    The deal includes $21.75 million guaranteed and $26.3 million in the first three years of the contract, according to sources.
    The two sides were working on the deal throughout the offseason and wrapped it up Tuesday afternoon.
    Houston selected Ryan out of the University of Alabama in the second round of the 2006 draft. He quickly emerged as one of the top young defensive players in the league and a building block for the Texans.
    Adam Schefter is an NFL reporter for ESPN Insider.

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    DeMeco got PAID!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5041689

    Ryans, Texans agree to six-year deal
    By Adam Schefter
    Pro Bowl linebacker DeMeco Ryans and the Houston Texans agreed to a six-year, $48 million deal that makes him one of the game's highest paid linebackers and ties him to the franchise through the 2015 season, according to sources.
    The deal includes $21.75 million guaranteed and $26.3 million in the first three years of the contract, according to sources.
    The two sides were working on the deal throughout the offseason and wrapped it up Tuesday afternoon.
    Houston selected Ryan out of the University of Alabama in the second round of the 2006 draft. He quickly emerged as one of the top young defensive players in the league and a building block for the Texans.
    Adam Schefter is an NFL reporter for ESPN Insider.

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    Next up: Owen Daniels

    and Hopefully Earl Thomas falls to us in the draft

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    ITS ABOUT TIME!! Now Time for OD and Pollard!!

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    This made me happy as well.

    http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=6089
    Smith brings change to weight room, S&C program

    When the Texans begin their offseason program on Monday, it might take players a few minutes to get their bearings in the weight room at Reliant Stadium. New strength and conditioning coach Cedric Smith, who replaced Ray Wright in February, has given the place an entirely new look.
    Smith cleared out half of the weight room and filled it with eight "combo racks," dual-sided racks on power clean platforms. Both sides of the racks can be used at the same time, allowing more players to train at once. The racks can be used for a variety of exercises, including power cleans, squats, bench press, incline bench, flat bench and pull-ups.
    "I believe these exercises most translate the weight room to the football field," Smith said. "These are football exercises in the weight room that, what I believe and what we believe as a strength staff, are what's going to enable our guys to get better on the field."
    The combo racks aren't the only difference. Smith also brought in plyometric jump pads, and a new set of dumbbells that will enable a wider range of motion during exercises.
    There's little emphasis on machines in Smith's training philosophy, which he shared with HoustonTexans.com on Thursday.
    "We want to work a little bit differently than they did in the past," Smith said. "We basically believe more so in training on your feet. Stabilization, more explosiveness, power and strength; those are some of the things that, if you want to look at a broad view of what we do, would be involved in it. Posterior chain movements, back movements, core movements, corrective exercises (are involved) as well."

    Smith joined the Texans after three seasons as the head strength and conditioning coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. He was an assistant strength coach with the Denver Broncos from 2001-06 and a fitness manager and consultant with Gold's Gym in Phoenix for two years before that. Much of Smith's coaching philosophy, he said, is drawn from his experience as a player. He spent seven seasons in the NFL as a fullback for the Arizona Cardinals, Washington Redskins, New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings. He was a 1990 fifth-round draft pick out of the University of Florida, where he blocked for NFL Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith.

    "A lot of what I do is based on kind of having an idea and a pulse for where guys are – where they feel like as a player, where they've been," Smith said. "I try to look at it from a player's standpoint. Based off of my own experience, I definitely believe that the explosive movements – squatting, cleaning, all your posterior movements, your pull-ups, your upper-body movements from bench press to shoulder press – it's imperative that you do those to be better as a ball player."
    Smith, assistant strength and conditioning coach Matt Schiotz and their staff have been working 12-15 hours a day this week to assemble the weight room to fit those needs.
    "Any time you're changing your weight room and kind of putting things together, those are the hours, and to be honest with you, coaches' hours are that way," Smith said. "I do believe for a strength coach, you've got to get up early and you've got to kind of stay late to be really good at it and to help be a part of the success of the team that you work for, so that's kind of how I look at it."
    Players going through rehab have been working out at Reliant Stadium all offseason, giving Smith a chance to become familiar with part of the team already. He's eager to get acquianted with the rest of the players and officially kick off the team's 2010 offseason on Monday.
    "I'm very excited to be a part of something special here," he said. "I'm looking forward to it. I believe this is a championship-caliber ball club. It's a great organization to work for and it's great people to work with.
    "We've got a great weight room, we've got great equipment; now, we've got to go to work and see if we can continue to develop and get better every day."
    The Texans' offseason program will run for six weeks leading up the start of organized team activities in May.

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    ITS ABOUT TIME!! Now Time for OD and Pollard!!
    Daniels is expendable because of his previous knee injury history, he has now blown out both knees, and the drafting of Casey last season. If they don't resign him for a long term this season I can see them letting him walk. Casey will be a stud TE.

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    Daniels is expendable because of his previous knee injury history, he has now blown out both knees, and the drafting of Casey last season. If they don't resign him for a long term this season I can see them letting him walk. Casey will be a stud TE.
    Are you kidding me? OD is gonna be one of the top TE's in the league

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    Are you kidding me? OD is gonna be one of the top TE's in the league
    Agreed. OD is the real deal. I didn't really expect too much of a drop off when he went out last year, but our TEs didn't do compared to him. He was playing better than anyone before the injury. That being said, we hold all the cards, so I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't at least take a couple preseason games before we sign him to a new contract. OD said that himself.

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    Are you kidding me? OD is gonna be one of the top TE's in the league
    I agree but how much of a risk does the team take on a guy that has blown out both of his knees, one of them twice? Especially when they invested a draft pick on a guy with the same exact skill set as OD. Don't get me wrong, I love OD but I don't think it would be smart to break the bank on a dude with a history of knee problems.

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    I would've liked to see them use the franchise tag on him just to see how his rehab goes and how the season plays out. Give him the Dunta treatment. If he goes through 10 games playing at the level he had been and everything seems fine then you offer him a nice deal. If not, him and let him walk.

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    I would've liked to see them use the franchise tag on him just to see how his rehab goes and how the season plays out. Give him the Dunta treatment. If he goes through 10 games playing at the level he had been and everything seems fine then you offer him a nice deal. If not, him and let him walk.
    He's a restricted free agent. It would have been idiotic to use the Franchise tag on him. We put the highest tender on him, which means if anyone else signed him, we could match the offer and keep him, or receive that team's first and third round pick. That's some serious compensation that no one will want to give up.

    OD is ours this year, if he doesn't get a new deal, he'll just play under the qualifying offer we extended to him and become an unrestricted free agent next year. That is when we would have to consider franchising him, not this year. I still think we are working on getting a deal done, but he's coming off a major injury and we have him for at least this year, so there's no rush.

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    He's a restricted free agent. It would have been idiotic to use the Franchise tag on him. We put the highest tender on him, which means if anyone else signed him, we could match the offer and keep him, or receive that team's first and third round pick. That's some serious compensation that no one will want to give up.

    OD is ours this year, if he doesn't get a new deal, he'll just play under the qualifying offer we extended to him and become an unrestricted free agent next year. That is when we would have to consider franchising him, not this year. I still think we are working on getting a deal done, but he's coming off a major injury and we have him for at least this year, so there's no rush.
    My bad, I didn't realize the details of the RFA bull .

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    I really want Owen to get paid too and I hope he comes back healthy and ready to kick ass this year, then we can give him is payday. I hope Casey does turn out to be a stud but we have to treat Owen like Dunta now and we all see how that turned out. Dunta was never the same and got his payday, just not with us and im happy about that. Demeco was the main priority and that is locked up.




    So who do you guys wanna see us get in Round 1?

    I know everyone says either Earl or Spiller but im not sure about either at this point. Earl is kind of small and not sure if he will translate from a good college safety to a good pro saftey.

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    I would love it if Berry fell to the 20 spot but that is not happening. Thomas is going to be a good pickup. I don't think he would start right away, having him share time with Eugene Wilson will help his development. Kyle Wilson will also be a good pickup to help replace Dunta and for some depth at CB. Right now there are only 5 CBs on the roster. Quin, McCain, Reeves, Freddy Bennett and Antwan Moulden. Way too much youth and unproven guys. Quin, McCain and Reeves will be the three primary CBs. They will definitely need to pick up a CB in the first 3 rounds.

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