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    Then that means Barry is overplaying on D...hardly a reason to rip him...
    Uh yes, BECAUSE A GOOD SHOOTER IS LEFT OPEN!!!!

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!??!


    Seems to me Pop could have just asked him to stop doubling Melo without being a about it
    Oh christ grow up, hes a man not a kid, stop worrying about his goddamn self esteem, hes already been given a starting spot to do that, you dont need to keep holding his for him.

    Probobly the reason he was benched was, Pop said "no need to double stay with Demarr" then goes and doubles again.

    You sure he wasn't supposed to be doubling?
    Alot of the Spurs defensive scheme is to NOT double, come on.

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    Again, he wasn't supposed to double. Don't you know the Spurs' defensive principles?

    The Spurs double...they don't like to do it but they will do it.

    I can't say with certainty that he wasn't being asked to do it, why the was he doing it then? He hasn't done it at any other time this season...

    You guys have ripped him all season for giving up on D...that's not what happened last night.

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    What did you want Pop to do?
    run 20 straight plays for him.

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    Wow so let me get this straight...

    The reason you guys have been ripping Barry's D all season is because he overplays on D...

    Got it...sorry I misunderstood the criticisms you have been making the entire season.

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    You guys have ripped him all season for giving up on D...that's not what happened last night.
    You obviously didn't see the Spurs first bucket either.

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    Give him even more PT?

    No bench him...because it's better to choke.

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    No the reason is because he wont play the defensive system.

    When he does, and puts his hands in the passing lanes he does fine.

    When he starts thinking for himself and goes and helps Bruce Bowen on D, where he didn't need to cause Bowen OWNED Anthony all night, then he gets burned and ripped up.

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    Can't even discuss it.

    Can't even...

    Unreal.

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    Whottt, before I hit the hay...do you really think Brent Barry is a good defender? Look me in the eyes and say it.

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    he will say no, but that is ok.

    Its ok if Barry's man will score 30.

    Barry will score the same amount, so there is no need for defensive effort.

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    No I don't think he's a good defender get freaking real...

    But I know for a fact he's much improved on D since Duncan went out with injury.

    I think he was supposed to be double teaming...because of the way Pop reacted to it.


    In any case...I now find myself arguing with the group that wants Barry starting...am I the only one that gets the irony?

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    he will say no, but that is ok.

    Its ok if Barry's man will score 30.

    Barry will score the same amount, so there is no need for defensive effort.
    Show me one time Barry's man has scored 30 or STFU.

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    I think he was supposed to be double teaming...because of the way Pop reacted to it.
    so by your logic.

    He was doing something he was told to do, so he got benched.


    EH!??!??!?!?!?

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    It is called an example Genius.

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    so by your logic.

    He was doing something he was told to do, so he got benched.


    EH!??!??!?!?!?

    I think Pop wanted the double team because Melo got hot late in game 1, and because I've only been a Spurfan for about 25 years and all of Pop's career and I know how he reacts.

    But let's just say you guys are right, for the sake of argument, we know full well Barry's defense is the worst aspect of the game and the reason Pop would rather lose via choke than win...then it's not because of a lack of effort on D, it's because of a misunderstanding the weakest aspect of his game...I don't think that's a good reason to be a ...especially when all you gotta do is ing tell him to correct it...

    But no go ahead an bench him for making a misguided effort....we'll teach that punk ass a lesson or lose a le trying.

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    Pop would rather lose via choke than win
    yeah, Pop would rather lose.

    God your a ing moron.


    we'll teach that punk ass a lesson or lose a le trying.
    blah blah blah blah

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    Wow...if Whotts brillant theory is true, that supposed double team was pretty sorry, looked like Barry was trying to sneak up and steal the ball. Anthony had plenty of time to thow the ball to his man for a wide open three.

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    I miss Whottt. Whoever has stolen his password is doing a bad imitation. I don't even know how to respond to his posts anymore.

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    I've only been a Spurfan for about 25 years and all of Pop's career and I know how he reacts.
    I guess we could take a final tally of Barry's minutes per game since December 17 then.

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    Whottt, he wasn't supposed to double -- that was pretty clear. And I'm not sure why he was; he seemed a bit confused. I don't really care much about Barry's D other than he needs to just play within the defensive system. Last night, he obviously made some mistakes in that regard. But in general, he has improved somewhat throughout the season defensively.

    Glenn Robinson has never played D in his life either, but he hangs in on D when he's in the game and seems to know what he's supposed to do. I expect the same and not much more from Barry.

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    Whatever...at least I am not clowning myself with umpteen contradictions by talking about what a great move it was to start him and then talking about what a up he is...

    Contradiction much?

    Takes balls to rip him for the first play of them game and then talk about what a brilliant move it was to start him...all in the same thread.

    And furthermore...

    I find it amazing how folks wander in a state of confusion about solutions to the Spurs problems...

    I hear now...

    1.Barry is playing with Duncan to get him more open looks, because he evidently can't hit without Duncan on the court.

    This is a load of crap...Barry has played his entire career without Tim Duncan and he's shot fairly well.

    #2.It helps his confidence.

    This is also crap. The only confidence issues Barry has had this season are Pop induced....coincidentally, Horry, Rose, Devin and Beno have all had the same issues. I know....Horry has always struggled with his confidence too.

    People who lack confidence don't play their best stretch of the season after Duncan goes out.

    Last night was a case of Barry being called out and focused on and responding to the challenge...it wasn't an act of brilliance as we'll find out in Denver when Parker and the Spurs once again forget about Barry.

    If there's one criticism you can make of Barry is that he tries to be too much of a team player and doesn't call for the ball enough...

    And I've never seen a guy get so ripped for good qualities as Brent Barry has on this team...I didn't even like the signing at first but he has won me over a fan this season with the class way he has dealt with the pressures that come with his role on this team.

    And those that compare him to Hedo do him a grave disservice.

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    I guess we could take a final tally of Barry's minutes per game since December 17 then.
    Instead of tallying your ability to be as offensively stupid as Pop...why don't we tally the number of times you get off the subject and call me a liar when you are getting punked in an argument.....

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    call me a liar
    Every time you lie.

    Which is pretty much every time you get punked.

    That was easy.

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    talk about a beach ball right over the heart of the plate.


    I dont think even I defend Rasho this much.

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    It's amazing the lengths some Spurs fans will go to rip Brent Barry. And what I don't understand is why people are defending yanking Barry when Denver was playing zone and the Spurs ran into a wall. Pop took out a three-point shooter and great passer (AKA: zone buster), the Spurs looked lost and the Nuggets came alive and started chipping away at the lead. Of course the Spurs had the 30ish point lead so it wasn't a huge threat, and Pop actually adjusted in a timely manner, but it still wasn't the most effective move of the night.

    Barry isn't the NBA's greatest defender, I think we all get it at this point. So why don't we concentrate on the things he does bring to the table instead of going out of the way to find whatever little thing we can to start bagging on him for once. He had a solid game and you guys still try to tear him apart, it's just sad at this point.

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